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while your comment hints at lying and omitting information, i have some concrete anecdote on doing exactly that. when i moved to the US, ernerst&young (the mos

by gcb0 14y ago

while your comment hints at lying and omitting information, i have some concrete anecdote on doing exactly that. when i moved to the US, ernerst&young (the most incompetent financial firm i've ever worked with) besides doing several things wrong out of incompetence, told me to fill a form listing my overseas banking account. i checked that it was almost mandatory (the wording is not very clear) so i filled and submitted it. then now, a few years later, checking the IRS website, they call you to fill that form and boast that "since some 3 years 30.000 people informed the IRS of their overseas accounts" ...really? 3 yrs... and there's 30.000 people in the US with overseas accounts? So yeah, i can understand why people do not want the IRS to be informed of everything. it seems that trying to leave it in the dark is the way to go.

protomyth 14y ago
"while your comment hints at lying and omitting information, i have some concrete anecdote on doing exactly that." I do not lie to the IRS (you are guilty and have to prove yourself innocent), and as a general rule in life, I try not to lie to people. If the IRS has all the information it needs to fill out my taxes, then several parts of the Bill of Rights are being violated. I cannot fathom how the IRS would force churches to report each contributor for example.
- gcb0 14y ago
  whats the difference of: - they getting the info - you being forced by law to send them the info? (after paying a tax preparator just to fill in the forms) nobody is talking about IRS knowing think you DON'T have to report to them to begin with. It's about the IRS just presenting you the information they already have. My point is. Many, many, many people outright omit required* information to the IRS based on that number i saw earlier. *required= info you would have to give out, otherwise you would be lying.

by gcb0 14y ago

protomyth 14y ago

"while your comment hints at lying and omitting information, i have some concrete anecdote on doing exactly that." I do not lie to the IRS (you are guilty and have to prove yourself innocent), and as a general rule in life, I try not to lie to people. If the IRS has all the information it needs to fill out my taxes, then several parts of the Bill of Rights are being violated. I cannot fathom how the IRS would force churches to report each contributor for example.

gcb0 14y ago
whats the difference of: - they getting the info - you being forced by law to send them the info? (after paying a tax preparator just to fill in the forms) nobody is talking about IRS knowing think you DON'T have to report to them to begin with. It's about the IRS just presenting you the information they already have. My point is. Many, many, many people outright omit required* information to the IRS based on that number i saw earlier. *required= info you would have to give out, otherwise you would be lying.