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‘Linux of online learning’: edX and Stanford build open source platform

53 points by iProject 14y ago

mattbarrie 14y ago
This is surely going to screw over Udacity and Coursera.
- wolfpackk 14y ago
  I personally hate the set time-frame of edx and Coursera and much prefer Udacity
akandiah 14y ago
There are a fair number of these open source learning management systems. A small list is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_learning_management_systems http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_learning_management_sys... How is this different from any of these?
- adelevie 14y ago
  It looks like we have a lot of different "Linuxes for online learning." Perhaps we should peg different open source LMSs to particular distros. Since edX and Stanford's system seems to be destined to be the most popular and user-friendly, we should from now on call it the "Ubuntu for online learning." Further, I suggest Wikipedia be called the "Arch Linux of online learning." Traditional colleges and universities can be called the "Drupal of online learning."
adelevie 14y ago
I know "X for Y" descriptions can be useful shorthand, but "Linux of online learning"? Really? I know many HNers groaned at yesterday's Morozov essay, but we might do well for ourselves if we take some of the buzzwords back a notch or two. It would go a long way towards preserving the meaning and significance of important words. If anything that is "open" can be "the Linux of something," then what is Linux?
- polymatter 14y ago
  The OS for Floss (free/libre/open source) hackers.
- netcan 14y ago
  Apart from being very prone to cliche, the problem with "X for Y" is that it's got so much potential to be indulgent. "Linux of online learning" might convey meaning like "platform," "open," :big ecosystem" and "you can build a brand on top of it." But, it sounds like they are saying "Awesome & incredibly successful platform for learning." That said, I still don't think it's meaningless, though I don't know how much conviction the people saying it have. Think of the different connotations you get if you replace linux with Windows or iOS. Like mission statements or any other form of cliche it's bullshit & self indulgent 90% of the time. But if it's done with conviction, it can have (useful) meaning.
  - adelevie 14y ago
    If you're wrong, what good is conviction? I'd think that's even more dangerous. It's easy to call out the cynics who misappropriate and obfuscate words for their own gain. It's scarier when people earnestly see nothing wrong with anything open being "a Linux." Morozov bemoaned the overuse of "open." Now we take that a step further. Anything that meets the already-loose standards for being "open" can also be "a Linux." Is there any workable standard with which to limit this indulgence? Hopefully it's somewhere between a "Twilio for photos" and a realtor holding a "Linux house" for prospective home buyers.
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netcan 14y ago
I'd like to see Joel Spolsky do online learning. One of the startups in this area should get him as an advisor and do a weekly podcast with him.
danielhughes 14y ago
Has anyone actually seen the source code for edx? They claimed that they would release it. I don't see a repository on Github or anywhere else.
- jtauber 14y ago
  The source will be released in full on June 1st with various components being released earlier.
- rocha 14y ago
  There is a github repo: https://github.com/edx https://github.com/edx
- rockingspots 14y ago
  There's also this press release talking about the release of XBlock SDK: https://www.edx.org/press/xblock_announcement https://www.edx.org/press/xblock_announcement
randall 14y ago
Hm, I wonder why they didn't check out instructure. https://github.com/instructure/canvas-lms https://github.com/instructure/canvas-lms It's open source, and there's a paid arm of it for universities to outsource their IT needs.
- amackera 14y ago
  Canvas is way more of an LMS (Learning Management System), than a learning platform. My only experience is with MITx, which has a very different goal than an LMS.

53 points by iProject 14y ago

mattbarrie 14y ago

This is surely going to screw over Udacity and Coursera.

wolfpackk 14y ago
I personally hate the set time-frame of edx and Coursera and much prefer Udacity

akandiah 14y ago

There are a fair number of these open source learning management systems. A small list is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_learning_management_systems http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_learning_management_sys... How is this different from any of these?

adelevie 14y ago
It looks like we have a lot of different "Linuxes for online learning." Perhaps we should peg different open source LMSs to particular distros. Since edX and Stanford's system seems to be destined to be the most popular and user-friendly, we should from now on call it the "Ubuntu for online learning." Further, I suggest Wikipedia be called the "Arch Linux of online learning." Traditional colleges and universities can be called the "Drupal of online learning."

adelevie 14y ago

I know "X for Y" descriptions can be useful shorthand, but "Linux of online learning"? Really? I know many HNers groaned at yesterday's Morozov essay, but we might do well for ourselves if we take some of the buzzwords back a notch or two. It would go a long way towards preserving the meaning and significance of important words. If anything that is "open" can be "the Linux of something," then what is Linux?

polymatter 14y ago
The OS for Floss (free/libre/open source) hackers.
netcan 14y ago
Apart from being very prone to cliche, the problem with "X for Y" is that it's got so much potential to be indulgent. "Linux of online learning" might convey meaning like "platform," "open," :big ecosystem" and "you can build a brand on top of it." But, it sounds like they are saying "Awesome & incredibly successful platform for learning." That said, I still don't think it's meaningless, though I don't know how much conviction the people saying it have. Think of the different connotations you get if you replace linux with Windows or iOS. Like mission statements or any other form of cliche it's bullshit & self indulgent 90% of the time. But if it's done with conviction, it can have (useful) meaning.
- adelevie 14y ago
  If you're wrong, what good is conviction? I'd think that's even more dangerous. It's easy to call out the cynics who misappropriate and obfuscate words for their own gain. It's scarier when people earnestly see nothing wrong with anything open being "a Linux." Morozov bemoaned the overuse of "open." Now we take that a step further. Anything that meets the already-loose standards for being "open" can also be "a Linux." Is there any workable standard with which to limit this indulgence? Hopefully it's somewhere between a "Twilio for photos" and a realtor holding a "Linux house" for prospective home buyers.

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netcan 14y ago

I'd like to see Joel Spolsky do online learning. One of the startups in this area should get him as an advisor and do a weekly podcast with him.

danielhughes 14y ago

Has anyone actually seen the source code for edx? They claimed that they would release it. I don't see a repository on Github or anywhere else.

jtauber 14y ago
The source will be released in full on June 1st with various components being released earlier.
rocha 14y ago
There is a github repo: https://github.com/edx https://github.com/edx
rockingspots 14y ago
There's also this press release talking about the release of XBlock SDK: https://www.edx.org/press/xblock_announcement https://www.edx.org/press/xblock_announcement

randall 14y ago

Hm, I wonder why they didn't check out instructure. https://github.com/instructure/canvas-lms https://github.com/instructure/canvas-lms It's open source, and there's a paid arm of it for universities to outsource their IT needs.

amackera 14y ago
Canvas is way more of an LMS (Learning Management System), than a learning platform. My only experience is with MITx, which has a very different goal than an LMS.