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Wow. That male at the table needs to have his balls removed for such a statement. He may be male, but he isn't a man. A real man wouldn't behave like that. E

Wow. That male at the table needs to have his balls removed for such a statement. He may be male, but he isn't a man. A real man wouldn't behave like that. Edit: OK, maybe having his balls removed is excessive. He is mocking a womens anatomy and the reverse would make him feel good. i.e saying he got into GDC because of his testicles isn't the same type of insult as the female getting in for her "tits". So this isn't an argument that levels the playing field. Perhaps he is just a socially awkward human being that doesn't respect women. Someday he will cross the wrong path and insult the wrong women and then I guess Karma kicks in? Edit 2: Thanks everyone for pointing about that I was indeed going overboard with the removal of anatomy phrase. Overboard from being outraged people still act like this and in front of a table full of people.

eropple 14y ago
This sort of insult doesn't help anything or anyone. If anything, it just makes the situation worse for everyone involved. Please desist.
- jason_slack 14y ago
  It isn't an insult. The insult was what he said to begin with. Would it had been better if I said he needs to "have his mouth washed out with soap" like a 5 year old? Seriously. To tell me he doesn't deserve a similar treatment to what he displayed to the female is naive. He needs to know that what he did is not excusable and wont be tolerated.
  - jrajav 14y ago
    We all understand that what he did was wrong. That doesn't mean you need to drag out more sexist tripe like what makes someone a "real man." It's just negative and passion-inducing without actually adding or helping anything.
  - recursive 14y ago
    You think testicle removal is a "similar treatment"? That's probably the root of the disagreement.
    - jason_slack 14y ago
      agreed, that was overboard. I was trying to point out a point in a 'Reductio ad absurdum' manner.
  - tiredofcareer 14y ago
    Your comment is completely empty of content and is just inflammatory. Yes, what we said was wrong. We all arrived at that conclusion on our own and don't need your vivid imagery to reinforce, thank you.
    - jason_slack 14y ago
      it wasn't intended to be inflammatory. it was intended to display outrage with the situation and how someone can act like that, blatantly.
      - tiredofcareer 14y ago
        > it wasn't intended to be inflammatory. Noted. Still was. You can't possibly imagine that calling for mutilating someone isn't inflammatory. Can you? (Your discussion of 'real men' aside, which is a fight I don't feel like having, much like OP!)
  - eropple 14y ago
    Yes, it is an insult, and you're not doing anyone any favors by dissembling. Regardless of your motivations, you decided to employ a gendered attack with a very long list of connotations--one of the more prevalent being that those who are not 'real men' are themselves exhibiting feminine qualities. His behavior is 100% unacceptable. Yours isn't, either. "An eye for an eye" doesn't help anyone be better, and education, not feel-good attacks, is the goal. You are perpetuating the problem. Stop.
    - jason_slack 14y ago
      ok, I can see your point. Education is the real goal. When enough people are educated over time this type of stuff goes aways. Isn't perpetuation of the problem double edged? Those that make those comments dont accept education without having a reason to. Those that try and convey that reasoning, if they do it in a similar manner, are accused of perpetuation. So how does one make someone understand what they did without giving them a does of what it feels like? How do you educate better?
citricsquid 14y ago
Please stop, you're over compensating. Yes the person in this story is a dick but being a dick does not mean someone should have their body mutilated, nor does it somehow make them a faux-person. Saying someone isn't a "real man" is just as ridiculous as what the person in the story said. You're not scoring any magical man points with a comment like this.
- jason_slack 14y ago
  it isn't my goal to score points though. Maybe him being a dick in front of people at the table is enough to help change him. Thanks for your point.
anaheim 14y ago
Why do you say that? Would you also say a female needs to "have her vagina removed" if she commented about a male developer's "award-winning biceps"? You have to understand that objectification can go both ways; if you want to curb it, you have to be equally strict in all cases.

eropple 14y ago

This sort of insult doesn't help anything or anyone. If anything, it just makes the situation worse for everyone involved. Please desist.

jason_slack 14y ago
It isn't an insult. The insult was what he said to begin with. Would it had been better if I said he needs to "have his mouth washed out with soap" like a 5 year old? Seriously. To tell me he doesn't deserve a similar treatment to what he displayed to the female is naive. He needs to know that what he did is not excusable and wont be tolerated.
- jrajav 14y ago
  We all understand that what he did was wrong. That doesn't mean you need to drag out more sexist tripe like what makes someone a "real man." It's just negative and passion-inducing without actually adding or helping anything.
- recursive 14y ago
  You think testicle removal is a "similar treatment"? That's probably the root of the disagreement.
  - jason_slack 14y ago
    agreed, that was overboard. I was trying to point out a point in a 'Reductio ad absurdum' manner.
- tiredofcareer 14y ago
  Your comment is completely empty of content and is just inflammatory. Yes, what we said was wrong. We all arrived at that conclusion on our own and don't need your vivid imagery to reinforce, thank you.
  - jason_slack 14y ago
    it wasn't intended to be inflammatory. it was intended to display outrage with the situation and how someone can act like that, blatantly.
    - tiredofcareer 14y ago
      > it wasn't intended to be inflammatory. Noted. Still was. You can't possibly imagine that calling for mutilating someone isn't inflammatory. Can you? (Your discussion of 'real men' aside, which is a fight I don't feel like having, much like OP!)
- eropple 14y ago
  Yes, it is an insult, and you're not doing anyone any favors by dissembling. Regardless of your motivations, you decided to employ a gendered attack with a very long list of connotations--one of the more prevalent being that those who are not 'real men' are themselves exhibiting feminine qualities. His behavior is 100% unacceptable. Yours isn't, either. "An eye for an eye" doesn't help anyone be better, and education, not feel-good attacks, is the goal. You are perpetuating the problem. Stop.
  - jason_slack 14y ago
    ok, I can see your point. Education is the real goal. When enough people are educated over time this type of stuff goes aways. Isn't perpetuation of the problem double edged? Those that make those comments dont accept education without having a reason to. Those that try and convey that reasoning, if they do it in a similar manner, are accused of perpetuation. So how does one make someone understand what they did without giving them a does of what it feels like? How do you educate better?

citricsquid 14y ago

Please stop, you're over compensating. Yes the person in this story is a dick but being a dick does not mean someone should have their body mutilated, nor does it somehow make them a faux-person. Saying someone isn't a "real man" is just as ridiculous as what the person in the story said. You're not scoring any magical man points with a comment like this.

jason_slack 14y ago
it isn't my goal to score points though. Maybe him being a dick in front of people at the table is enough to help change him. Thanks for your point.

anaheim 14y ago

Why do you say that? Would you also say a female needs to "have her vagina removed" if she commented about a male developer's "award-winning biceps"? You have to understand that objectification can go both ways; if you want to curb it, you have to be equally strict in all cases.