there are others? what other frameworks render the page server and client side? http://derbyjs.com/#why_not_use_rails_and_backbone http://derbyjs.com/#why_not

there are others? what other frameworks render the page server and client side? http://derbyjs.com/#why_not_use_rails_and_backbone http://derbyjs.com/#why_not_use_rails_and_backbone edit: ok I forgot http://www.socketstream.org/ http://www.socketstream.org/ but regardless, the realtime single page app sector really is dominated by those four products. everything else is already obsolete. http://derbyjs.com/#introduction_to_racer http://derbyjs.com/#introduction_to_racer