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Perhaps you should interpret it as feedback that its not a hirer's market. In a market where most people have many opportunities the incentive to respond with

Perhaps you should interpret it as feedback that its not a hirer's market. In a market where most people have many opportunities the incentive to respond with a high effort response is very low. The better thing to do would be to consider the casual emails you get as leads to a potential hire - you'll have to put the effort in. Additionally what you are seeing is likely not by mistake - its an indication that hiring right now for applicants is in many cases more of a numbers game than it is about crafting a great cover letter. That being said I honestly don't think you are doing yourself much good with this sort of message - I'd just do the best that you can with what you get back.

gfodor 14y ago
There is a difference between "low effort" and rude. Not taking 30 seconds to actually comprehend the position and have enough background to actually write a meaningful email basically would rule you out of me hiring you since it says a lot about how you would be to work with.
- alxndr 14y ago
  You should see the kind of messages I get from recruiters.
  - tracker1 14y ago
    Most of which I doubt have even glanced at my resume. From the job listings outside of programming, and those for entry level positions, to those well below what would be a reasonable salary for anyone in the area they are looking (Usually coastal cities for less than is common in Phoenix).
  - anthonyb 14y ago
    "Dear Anthony, Thankyou 4 ure notes in LinkedIn about contacting u - much easier to know that you're approached all the time. U r too experienced for my role, but if you know of any mid level Python / Linux developers happy 2 discuss referral $$if I can place them:) Happy Friday!" (Actual recruiter message on LinkedIn - I keep it around to remind me why I don't talk to recruiters)
    - asveikau 14y ago
      I had a good laugh at that quote, but now I'm thinking: is it legit to cite one or more persons doing their job poorly to dismiss the entire profession? Do you keep around bad code to remind you why you don't talk to programmers? Examples of quack medicine to remind you why you don't talk to doctors?
      - anthonyb 14y ago
        Essentially every recruiter message that I've received on LinkedIn follows one of two patterns: a) Hello, you do Python, do you want a job? (with no position details, salary, reason to join, etc.) b) a) followed by a clumsy attempt to fish details of my contacts (I don't connect with recruiters). So, er, yeah - "Ha ha, profession!"
        anthonyb 14y ago
        Oh, I forgot c), which is usually just a raw, unadorned "I'd like to add you to my professional network." from random recruiter scum. Kinda of a b) really, but without the work of having to have a position available...
        nollidge 14y ago
        My favorite is when they CALL ME AT WORK to network at me, especially since I specifically say "don't call" on my LI profile.
        asveikau 14y ago
        I don't doubt the abundance of bad behaviors. I was just doing a literal parse of your logic.
        anthonyb 14y ago
        There actually really wasn't any logic in that statement. I'm not saying "I have this message from a recruiter, therefore all recruiters are scum." It's a reminder.
        14y ago

gfodor 14y ago

There is a difference between "low effort" and rude. Not taking 30 seconds to actually comprehend the position and have enough background to actually write a meaningful email basically would rule you out of me hiring you since it says a lot about how you would be to work with.

alxndr 14y ago
You should see the kind of messages I get from recruiters.
- tracker1 14y ago
  Most of which I doubt have even glanced at my resume. From the job listings outside of programming, and those for entry level positions, to those well below what would be a reasonable salary for anyone in the area they are looking (Usually coastal cities for less than is common in Phoenix).
- anthonyb 14y ago
  "Dear Anthony, Thankyou 4 ure notes in LinkedIn about contacting u - much easier to know that you're approached all the time. U r too experienced for my role, but if you know of any mid level Python / Linux developers happy 2 discuss referral $$if I can place them:) Happy Friday!" (Actual recruiter message on LinkedIn - I keep it around to remind me why I don't talk to recruiters)
  - asveikau 14y ago
    I had a good laugh at that quote, but now I'm thinking: is it legit to cite one or more persons doing their job poorly to dismiss the entire profession? Do you keep around bad code to remind you why you don't talk to programmers? Examples of quack medicine to remind you why you don't talk to doctors?
    - anthonyb 14y ago
      Essentially every recruiter message that I've received on LinkedIn follows one of two patterns: a) Hello, you do Python, do you want a job? (with no position details, salary, reason to join, etc.) b) a) followed by a clumsy attempt to fish details of my contacts (I don't connect with recruiters). So, er, yeah - "Ha ha, profession!"
      - anthonyb 14y ago
        Oh, I forgot c), which is usually just a raw, unadorned "I'd like to add you to my professional network." from random recruiter scum. Kinda of a b) really, but without the work of having to have a position available...
      - nollidge 14y ago
        My favorite is when they CALL ME AT WORK to network at me, especially since I specifically say "don't call" on my LI profile.
      - asveikau 14y ago
        I don't doubt the abundance of bad behaviors. I was just doing a literal parse of your logic.
        anthonyb 14y ago
        There actually really wasn't any logic in that statement. I'm not saying "I have this message from a recruiter, therefore all recruiters are scum." It's a reminder.
      - 14y ago