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This is the first real news today that I wish was an April Fool's hoax.

kingkilr 14y ago
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- gngeal 14y ago
  I think the obvious question is "why now suddenly, of all times"? First, it smells like a "me too" mentality, second, the Django people were savage animals before that? What's with all this code of conduct stuff jumping at people from the weirdest places? Will the day come when I go buy a loaf a bread and a sticker will be attached to it saying "You're not allowed to cuss while eating our bread"?
  - jacobian 14y ago
    Sorry if it seems sudden or ill-timed. The truth is that we've been working on this for quite some time (long enough I've forgotten when exactly we started). Like most things in open source, we worked on it when we found time, and released it when it was ready.
  - ubernostrum 14y ago
    Speaking as someone who's on the relevant mailing lists: this has been in development for quite a while now. It's just that now it's reached the point where broader public feedback is solicited. And to be perfectly honest, there's an increasing amount of evidence that measures like adopting codes of conduct do have an effect on how friendly and welcoming a community is seen to be, and do have an effect of bringing in people whose contributions are absolutely worthwhile, but who likely would not have joined in previously.
benatkin 14y ago
Yeah, me too. Chalk that up as an advantage Ruby on Rails has over Django.
- stefantalpalaru 14y ago
  Remember, remember the conference in November[1] [1] http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/20/british_ruby_conference_cancelled_after_diversity_row/ http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/20/british_ruby_confere...
  - benatkin 14y ago
    ruby != rails
- tiredofcareer 14y ago
  Not to start a pet language fight or anything, but the suggestion that Rails is better than Django due to its community made me piss myself laughing. What are you saying here? The lack of a code of conduct makes Rails better? You guys have significant problems in your community. Even if the sexism is less -- and that's one big if -- there's a whole plethora of other problems.

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gngeal 14y ago
I think the obvious question is "why now suddenly, of all times"? First, it smells like a "me too" mentality, second, the Django people were savage animals before that? What's with all this code of conduct stuff jumping at people from the weirdest places? Will the day come when I go buy a loaf a bread and a sticker will be attached to it saying "You're not allowed to cuss while eating our bread"?
- jacobian 14y ago
  Sorry if it seems sudden or ill-timed. The truth is that we've been working on this for quite some time (long enough I've forgotten when exactly we started). Like most things in open source, we worked on it when we found time, and released it when it was ready.
- ubernostrum 14y ago
  Speaking as someone who's on the relevant mailing lists: this has been in development for quite a while now. It's just that now it's reached the point where broader public feedback is solicited. And to be perfectly honest, there's an increasing amount of evidence that measures like adopting codes of conduct do have an effect on how friendly and welcoming a community is seen to be, and do have an effect of bringing in people whose contributions are absolutely worthwhile, but who likely would not have joined in previously.

benatkin 14y ago

Yeah, me too. Chalk that up as an advantage Ruby on Rails has over Django.

stefantalpalaru 14y ago
Remember, remember the conference in November[1] [1] http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/20/british_ruby_conference_cancelled_after_diversity_row/ http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/20/british_ruby_confere...
- benatkin 14y ago
  ruby != rails
tiredofcareer 14y ago
Not to start a pet language fight or anything, but the suggestion that Rails is better than Django due to its community made me piss myself laughing. What are you saying here? The lack of a code of conduct makes Rails better? You guys have significant problems in your community. Even if the sexism is less -- and that's one big if -- there's a whole plethora of other problems.