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As someone who went from design (Photoshop) to frontend (HTML, CSS, JS) to backend (Ruby), I can totally vouch for ditching the 'one-stop-shop' sites that claim

As someone who went from design (Photoshop) to frontend (HTML, CSS, JS) to backend (Ruby), I can totally vouch for ditching the 'one-stop-shop' sites that claim to be able to teach you everything about programming. In my experience, the most important thing to do is fork, break, and fix. Only if you immerse yourself in programming are you able to understand and start applying the concepts. Also, I think a huge skill for any programmer is being able to search and find answers quickly and efficiently. It sounds silly, but being able to quickly Google search for a particular answer or abstract a StackOverflow question to apply to your situation is huge when getting started because those are the resources you come to use all the time when you're actually building a product. Just my $0.02.

sc0rb 14y ago
Can we stop talking about Ruby programmers as if they are equal to people doing real programming?
- tomhaverford 14y ago
  So I notice these anti-Ruby/JS/Rails/Python comments from time to time on HN. Sometimes I will scan the author's comment history to gauge why they might write such a thing. Clearly you are not a troll and that was a serious comment. It seems you are a Java guy (which seems to be the case more often than not). And the above comment isn't the first negative comment you have left in a threads attacking the legitimacy of another programming language. I write a lot of Java too, and so I understand that it isn't a language that is regarded as 'cool' and does get put down from time to time. But it's crazy to me that people will channel their insecurity regarding their own choice of language as a reason to attack other people's choices. You seem very defensive of Java[1] and so I thought you would have first hand experience about how childish and irrational it is to attack someone else because they don't code in the same language as you. And for programmers of other language, not all us Java guys are insecure assholes :) [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5171053 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5171053

sc0rb 14y ago

Can we stop talking about Ruby programmers as if they are equal to people doing real programming?

tomhaverford 14y ago
So I notice these anti-Ruby/JS/Rails/Python comments from time to time on HN. Sometimes I will scan the author's comment history to gauge why they might write such a thing. Clearly you are not a troll and that was a serious comment. It seems you are a Java guy (which seems to be the case more often than not). And the above comment isn't the first negative comment you have left in a threads attacking the legitimacy of another programming language. I write a lot of Java too, and so I understand that it isn't a language that is regarded as 'cool' and does get put down from time to time. But it's crazy to me that people will channel their insecurity regarding their own choice of language as a reason to attack other people's choices. You seem very defensive of Java[1] and so I thought you would have first hand experience about how childish and irrational it is to attack someone else because they don't code in the same language as you. And for programmers of other language, not all us Java guys are insecure assholes :) [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5171053 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5171053