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It's funny to hear Samsung and Intel described as "hobby" developers. Intel and Nokia achieved a shipping platform with the N9 and I think some other partners m
by shawn-butler 14y ago
It's funny to hear Samsung and Intel described as "hobby" developers. Intel and Nokia achieved a shipping platform with the N9 and I think some other partners may have shipped a Meego product before it was killed by Microsoft cash/Elop.
Samsung shipped successful BadaOS phones under the Wave line. People on HN should be uniquely qualified to know what it means to actually ship a product and not dismiss it so out of hand.
Bada was an extensive userland sitting on top of either Linux or proprietary BSD-ish kernels and was the culmination of probably a decade of effort. I never saw anything other than prototypes running on top of Linux kernels though. The shipping product was entirely proprietary and achieved some decent share in a few markets (Brazil and Europe I think) for the total lack of marketing.
- Zigurd 14y agoAs-shipped, Bada ran on, as far as I know, a feature-phone OS kernel, probably Nucleus from Mentor Graphics, but I don't know for sure. The Bada runtime and APIs are no great shakes. Much less well-developed than Qt, and no basis for a modern smartphone runtime. Before iPhone, mobile OEMs were not expected to know what to do with software. The exception, at the time, was Nokia, which by itself constituted the entire first tier of the mobile handset business. As for Intel, I'm sure many people on this forum have their own stories of Intel and an un-serious dabbler in OSs. The example I know of is their brief ownership of a DSP OS. Microsoft convinced them they really shouldn't be trying to define multimedia APIs and software for PCs, and that was soon over. The bottom line is, there is a firm basis in history for thinking neither Samsung nor Intel, much less the two "working together," such as that cooperation is, can produce a serious mobile OS product.