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I don't know if/how you can say that Ubuntu Touch is a "hobby". And outside of Apple and MS, there is literally no other company as experience at creating an op

I don't know if/how you can say that Ubuntu Touch is a "hobby". And outside of Apple and MS, there is literally no other company as experience at creating an operating system as Canonical and the Ubuntu community. Based on the early revs, Ubuntu is by far the most polished. Canonical is also led by someone with a driving vision, very deep pockets and an absolute want to make a mark on mobile. So, Ubuntu has the most experienced team, the most polished early rev product and a focused founder. No way that Ubuntu Touch isn't the front runner here. Frankly, it isn't even close (or fair) to compare the rest to Ubuntu.

MatthewPhillips 14y ago
I agree with the grandparent. This matters more to Jolla; it's literally their company. If Sailfish doesn't catch on they will go out of business. I'd feel better if I knew in advance that everything they are working on is open source. While Ubuntu has experience bundle's open source software and to a smaller extent creating their own, they don't have any experience in mobile, which is a different ball game entirely. Early progress is impressive though, I will agree.
Zigurd 14y ago
Go listen to the Unity haters (I'm not one anymore, it finally seems to work well once you pry the Amazon spyware out of it) about Canonical's ability to innovate without shipping something half-baked. Ubuntu Touch is heavily dependent on Canonical being able to do major surgery on the Linux graphics stack on a very tight schedule. I agree with their plan and the reasoning behind it, but there are many reasons to doubt they can execute on schedule. As for the team, Ubuntu has some experienced phone OS developers but nowhere near the depth Jolla has. The way that Ubuntu used SurfaceFlinger as a provisional system compositor is brilliant. But getting from there to a product is more work than Canonical has ever had to put into a project.
glomph 14y ago
Only if you restrict the conversation to PC user operating systems.

MatthewPhillips 14y ago

I agree with the grandparent. This matters more to Jolla; it's literally their company. If Sailfish doesn't catch on they will go out of business. I'd feel better if I knew in advance that everything they are working on is open source. While Ubuntu has experience bundle's open source software and to a smaller extent creating their own, they don't have any experience in mobile, which is a different ball game entirely. Early progress is impressive though, I will agree.

Zigurd 14y ago

Go listen to the Unity haters (I'm not one anymore, it finally seems to work well once you pry the Amazon spyware out of it) about Canonical's ability to innovate without shipping something half-baked. Ubuntu Touch is heavily dependent on Canonical being able to do major surgery on the Linux graphics stack on a very tight schedule. I agree with their plan and the reasoning behind it, but there are many reasons to doubt they can execute on schedule. As for the team, Ubuntu has some experienced phone OS developers but nowhere near the depth Jolla has. The way that Ubuntu used SurfaceFlinger as a provisional system compositor is brilliant. But getting from there to a product is more work than Canonical has ever had to put into a project.

glomph 14y ago

Only if you restrict the conversation to PC user operating systems.