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Lets say your Facebook page was public and you rant about the company you are working for. Do you think future employers won't wonder if you will do the same if

by niggler 14y ago

Lets say your Facebook page was public and you rant about the company you are working for. Do you think future employers won't wonder if you will do the same if you join them? Lets say you write something about a topic that shouldn't be discussed (wasn't there a rape case that was clinched because of social media?). Who would want to risk potential backlash in the future? While you may think its your social life, Facebook definitely has enough reach that statements made by you could reflect poorly on your employer as well as on you.

mtgx 14y ago
What does "public" mean? I haven't used Facebook in like 2 years, so I don't know how their new subscribe/follow model works. Would the employer be able to just "follow" him without "friending" him and still see what he said?
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- rukshn 14y ago
  Facebook is pretty complicated. For example today i had an experience like this. A friend of mine posted a photo and tagged me in it. And a friend of the friend who originally posted the photo liked it. Although the photo is a photo of me and my friend because the friend who liked the photo has a privacy setting which makes everything he likes is public the photo i'm tagged now is public and anyone who is following the person who liked the photo can now see it. I hope this made sense i tried to keep it simple bs possible. True incident happened to me today
  - nbm 14y ago
    It is quite a bit easier than you make it sound. The photo will have been posted with a audience selected - something like "Only Me", "Friends", "Public". If people were tagged in the photo and it is set to "Friends", then those tagged and their friends can see it (the audience selector will put a little "(+)" there to let you know it has expanded it to friends of those tagged). You can also use a custom audience selector to do things like specify a friends list (or more) to share with, not to share with friends of those tagged, and so forth. Here is a link to the help page on privacy basics that starts with setting/modifying audience for posts: https://www.facebook.com/help/325807937506242/ https://www.facebook.com/help/325807937506242/ If somebody likes that photo, that like will only be visible to those that can already see that photo. It does not give anybody the ability to see the photo that did not already. In many cases, you can see the audience selected for posts your friends make by looking for the same icons from the audience selector next to the date and other metadata in your news feed, their timeline, or the picture page. If it is public, there'll be a little globe. If friends, then it'll be two people standing next to each other. If friends-of-friends, three people standing there. Obviously, you can't tell if it was shared with only them (since you wouldn't see it). In some cases (the person chose a custom audience), a gear icon will appear. If after you investigate based on the information above you really think the privacy model expanded who could see the photo because of the like, please report a privacy bug: https://www.facebook.com/help/contact/?id=308229232560802 https://www.facebook.com/help/contact/?id=308229232560802 (In case it wasn't obvious, I work at Facebook. But I don't work on privacy specifically.)
    - rukshn 14y ago
      Thanks for the information. It was really helpful. I guess what you say is most probably correct you must know about facebook more than any of us. I'll look if anything like that happens again. Cheers mate
- onemorepassword 14y ago
  Putting something on Facebook means giving it to a company you're not paying and you certainly have no contract with to securely and privately store your data. So you can safely much assume anything you put on there can be made public or at least shared with others at any given time without your consent. The model can change at any time, and of course there is that lovely incentive called "profit". Handing over any data to Facebook and expecting it to remain "private" is extremely naive.
  - superuser2 14y ago
    Of course, this is also true of your ISP, your cell carrier, your email provider, and every electronic communications system ever (except GPG). Facebook has no more reason to sell your messages and status updates than they do, and ad targeting does not cause your data to leave Facebook's servers.
    - niggler 14y ago
      "ad targeting does not cause your data to leave Facebook's servers." What reason is there to believe that facebook wouldn't explicitly allow third parties to pay a fee and see your "private" information"
      - superuser2 14y ago
        https://www.facebook.com/ads/create/ https://www.facebook.com/ads/create/ Facebook's ad targeting options are out there in the open for everyone to see. This is what you get if you pay Facebook. Where would they advertise your data without getting caught? Are Facebook and your boss part of some special club you've never heard of? And if you were Facebook, would you take that risk? I can't prove that they won't sell my data, but you can't prove that Verizon won't sell your texts, that Google won't sell your searches, etc.
octo_t 14y ago
Well the first part isn't true, but what if I do? Everyone has shitty days at work where all they want to do is leave, go home and have a glass of wine and crash. If I'm frustrated with some task, can I not say so? If I've been stuck on some problem, I can't say so to my friends?
- niggler 14y ago
  'If I'm frustrated with some task, can I not say so? If I've been stuck on some problem, I can't say so to my friends?' You have full right to say whatever you want, but don't expect your employer not to take notice if you say it in public. And don't expect your employer not to do anything of they hear your rant. The problem is the implicit expectation of Facebook privacy, For which there should be none. If you want to safely rant, do it in your home with your friends in the room. Every other medium (email, Facebook, twitter etc) involves intermediaries which could leak your rant. But don't complain that Facebook isn't private.
notatoad 14y ago
Okay, lets say your facebook page is public and you rant about the company you work for. That, to me, indicates some incredibly poor judgement and it absolutely should come back to haunt you.

by niggler 14y ago

mtgx 14y ago

What does "public" mean? I haven't used Facebook in like 2 years, so I don't know how their new subscribe/follow model works. Would the employer be able to just "follow" him without "friending" him and still see what he said?

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rukshn 14y ago
Facebook is pretty complicated. For example today i had an experience like this. A friend of mine posted a photo and tagged me in it. And a friend of the friend who originally posted the photo liked it. Although the photo is a photo of me and my friend because the friend who liked the photo has a privacy setting which makes everything he likes is public the photo i'm tagged now is public and anyone who is following the person who liked the photo can now see it. I hope this made sense i tried to keep it simple bs possible. True incident happened to me today
- nbm 14y ago
  It is quite a bit easier than you make it sound. The photo will have been posted with a audience selected - something like "Only Me", "Friends", "Public". If people were tagged in the photo and it is set to "Friends", then those tagged and their friends can see it (the audience selector will put a little "(+)" there to let you know it has expanded it to friends of those tagged). You can also use a custom audience selector to do things like specify a friends list (or more) to share with, not to share with friends of those tagged, and so forth. Here is a link to the help page on privacy basics that starts with setting/modifying audience for posts: https://www.facebook.com/help/325807937506242/ https://www.facebook.com/help/325807937506242/ If somebody likes that photo, that like will only be visible to those that can already see that photo. It does not give anybody the ability to see the photo that did not already. In many cases, you can see the audience selected for posts your friends make by looking for the same icons from the audience selector next to the date and other metadata in your news feed, their timeline, or the picture page. If it is public, there'll be a little globe. If friends, then it'll be two people standing next to each other. If friends-of-friends, three people standing there. Obviously, you can't tell if it was shared with only them (since you wouldn't see it). In some cases (the person chose a custom audience), a gear icon will appear. If after you investigate based on the information above you really think the privacy model expanded who could see the photo because of the like, please report a privacy bug: https://www.facebook.com/help/contact/?id=308229232560802 https://www.facebook.com/help/contact/?id=308229232560802 (In case it wasn't obvious, I work at Facebook. But I don't work on privacy specifically.)
  - rukshn 14y ago
    Thanks for the information. It was really helpful. I guess what you say is most probably correct you must know about facebook more than any of us. I'll look if anything like that happens again. Cheers mate
onemorepassword 14y ago
Putting something on Facebook means giving it to a company you're not paying and you certainly have no contract with to securely and privately store your data. So you can safely much assume anything you put on there can be made public or at least shared with others at any given time without your consent. The model can change at any time, and of course there is that lovely incentive called "profit". Handing over any data to Facebook and expecting it to remain "private" is extremely naive.
- superuser2 14y ago
  Of course, this is also true of your ISP, your cell carrier, your email provider, and every electronic communications system ever (except GPG). Facebook has no more reason to sell your messages and status updates than they do, and ad targeting does not cause your data to leave Facebook's servers.
  - niggler 14y ago
    "ad targeting does not cause your data to leave Facebook's servers." What reason is there to believe that facebook wouldn't explicitly allow third parties to pay a fee and see your "private" information"
    - superuser2 14y ago
      https://www.facebook.com/ads/create/ https://www.facebook.com/ads/create/ Facebook's ad targeting options are out there in the open for everyone to see. This is what you get if you pay Facebook. Where would they advertise your data without getting caught? Are Facebook and your boss part of some special club you've never heard of? And if you were Facebook, would you take that risk? I can't prove that they won't sell my data, but you can't prove that Verizon won't sell your texts, that Google won't sell your searches, etc.

octo_t 14y ago

Well the first part isn't true, but what if I do? Everyone has shitty days at work where all they want to do is leave, go home and have a glass of wine and crash. If I'm frustrated with some task, can I not say so? If I've been stuck on some problem, I can't say so to my friends?

niggler 14y ago
'If I'm frustrated with some task, can I not say so? If I've been stuck on some problem, I can't say so to my friends?' You have full right to say whatever you want, but don't expect your employer not to take notice if you say it in public. And don't expect your employer not to do anything of they hear your rant. The problem is the implicit expectation of Facebook privacy, For which there should be none. If you want to safely rant, do it in your home with your friends in the room. Every other medium (email, Facebook, twitter etc) involves intermediaries which could leak your rant. But don't complain that Facebook isn't private.

notatoad 14y ago

Okay, lets say your facebook page is public and you rant about the company you work for. That, to me, indicates some incredibly poor judgement and it absolutely should come back to haunt you.