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But... why? First of all if it bothers the neighbours why can't they just arrive on the spot and bust the thing? Also, all this planning ahead and resources, w

by bagosm 14y ago

But... why? First of all if it bothers the neighbours why can't they just arrive on the spot and bust the thing? Also, all this planning ahead and resources, why instead don't they just create one or two halls per area that are soundproof etc and let people rock out? Is the state really that stupid?

edwardunknown 14y ago
They might be raising revenue for the city with noise ordinance fines, who knows. I wish the reporter had included some possible motives. I never met a city cop who was interested in this kind of silly stuff. Lots of bored small town cops, sure, but for the Boston pd to (allegedly) put this amount of effort into busting basement concerts makes me think that money is somehow involved.
hfsktr 14y ago
Is that last question rhetorical? I suppose if you are into conspiracy stuff maybe they just make themselves look stupid so that you won't catch onto the real plans...
saraid216 14y ago
> First of all if it bothers the neighbours why can't they just arrive on the spot and bust the thing? Because these neighbors complained so loud that they passed a city-wide law on the matter. > Also, all this planning ahead and resources, why instead don't they just create one or two halls per area that are soundproof etc and let people rock out? You should itemize the budgets for both of these plans and compare them. I'm willing to bet that setting up "one or two halls per area" costs an order of magnitude more than what they're doing.
- bagosm 14y ago
  First of all I'm sure they could find an unused estate to convert into what they want. The dudes are used to playing in houses, I'm sure they wont mind if its not a perfect concert hall. Also, taxes on tickets and stuff or other promotions or rent for the night could very much turn into a big profit. About the law, I don't have anything against the law, just that I can't understand why would they be so obsessed with preemptive action instead of on-the-spot
  - saraid216 14y ago
    > First of all I'm sure they could find an unused estate to convert into what they want. The dudes are used to playing in houses, I'm sure they wont mind if its not a perfect concert hall. "The dudes" might be okay with it, but the city would own that venue and not only do they have to obey their own law on how it's maintained and regulated, but they'd be liable for anything that happened inside it. Further, if the city owns it, they're going to use it for more than just "the dudes", and those people may have different requirements. > Also, taxes on tickets and stuff or other promotions or rent for the night could very much turn into a big profit. You're assuming that (1) anyone will rent the space and (2) anyone will come if they do. These aren't minor assumptions. > About the law, I don't have anything against the law, just that I can't understand why would they be so obsessed with preemptive action instead of on-the-spot How much effort have you even bothered putting into stepping into their shoes rather than tyrannically deciding that your solution fixes all possible ills and should stand in for any agency on their part?

by bagosm 14y ago

edwardunknown 14y ago

They might be raising revenue for the city with noise ordinance fines, who knows. I wish the reporter had included some possible motives. I never met a city cop who was interested in this kind of silly stuff. Lots of bored small town cops, sure, but for the Boston pd to (allegedly) put this amount of effort into busting basement concerts makes me think that money is somehow involved.

hfsktr 14y ago

Is that last question rhetorical? I suppose if you are into conspiracy stuff maybe they just make themselves look stupid so that you won't catch onto the real plans...

saraid216 14y ago

> First of all if it bothers the neighbours why can't they just arrive on the spot and bust the thing? Because these neighbors complained so loud that they passed a city-wide law on the matter. > Also, all this planning ahead and resources, why instead don't they just create one or two halls per area that are soundproof etc and let people rock out? You should itemize the budgets for both of these plans and compare them. I'm willing to bet that setting up "one or two halls per area" costs an order of magnitude more than what they're doing.

bagosm 14y ago
First of all I'm sure they could find an unused estate to convert into what they want. The dudes are used to playing in houses, I'm sure they wont mind if its not a perfect concert hall. Also, taxes on tickets and stuff or other promotions or rent for the night could very much turn into a big profit. About the law, I don't have anything against the law, just that I can't understand why would they be so obsessed with preemptive action instead of on-the-spot
- saraid216 14y ago
  > First of all I'm sure they could find an unused estate to convert into what they want. The dudes are used to playing in houses, I'm sure they wont mind if its not a perfect concert hall. "The dudes" might be okay with it, but the city would own that venue and not only do they have to obey their own law on how it's maintained and regulated, but they'd be liable for anything that happened inside it. Further, if the city owns it, they're going to use it for more than just "the dudes", and those people may have different requirements. > Also, taxes on tickets and stuff or other promotions or rent for the night could very much turn into a big profit. You're assuming that (1) anyone will rent the space and (2) anyone will come if they do. These aren't minor assumptions. > About the law, I don't have anything against the law, just that I can't understand why would they be so obsessed with preemptive action instead of on-the-spot How much effort have you even bothered putting into stepping into their shoes rather than tyrannically deciding that your solution fixes all possible ills and should stand in for any agency on their part?