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You're totally right. #5 isn't a precise enough statement. Thus the natural conclusion is that corn syrup across the board is simply prone to being a little bit
by negativity 14y ago
You're totally right. #5 isn't a precise enough statement. Thus the natural conclusion is that corn syrup across the board is simply prone to being a little bit dirty in general. Enough that the bees notice the poison which they are acutely affected by. What I'm driving at, is that the bee keepers are motivated to buy the cheapest corn syrup they can find. Cheaper might imply lower quality, expired, or whatever. The point is, the bee keepers probably aren't performing a taste test, and wouldn't notice the difference by eating it themselves anyway.
Then it just comes down to which growers actually use these new pesticides on corn? And then which corn syrup companies source their corn from these farmers?
Anyway, here's a research paper that purports some evidence:
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/chensheng-lu/files/2012/10/in-situ-replication-of-honey-bee-colony-collapse-disorder.pdf http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/chensheng-lu/files/2012/10/in-si...
Interestingly enough, it looks like I got my bee biology, and bee keeping practices completely wrong in #4. I completely misunderstood the whole honey production/cold winter/hive temperature principle, and the honey harvest/corn syrup substitution thing.
It's outlined in the paper. The hive temperature thing plays a key role, in that the bees feed on the corn syrup while it's cold, during periods when they would normally feed on honey, and stay inside to keep the hive warm. The bees that are intoxicated abandon the hive, and fail to assist in providing the elevated temperature of the hive, leading to the hive's failure.
There's probably more to it than that, but like I said, that's my amateur understanding. I am not a bee keeper.
- maxerickson 14y agoThat low levels of pesticides are bad for bees is entirely believable. That beekeepers are good enough at and persistent enough about shopping for the relative quality of the syrup they are buying to be relevant is entirely unbelievable. If pesticide contamination of feed syrup does end up being a big factor, that's great, other types of sugar or not robbing the honey are easy ways to have pollinators.
- negativity 14y ago> That beekeepers are good enough at and persistent enough about shopping for the relative quality of the syrup they are buying to be relevant is entirely unbelievable. I'm going to paraphrase that statement a bit: "It's entirely unbelievable that a beekeeper's decisions in corn syrup selection could be relevant to colony collapse disorder." That seems to operate on the assumption that every 5 gallon bucket of corn syrup is perfectly identical, no matter the supplier. But I'll shoot down my own assumption that every bee keeper, who has experienced colony collapse disorder affecting their hives, has actually even used corn syrup explicitly as bee feed for their bees. I'm only taking that technique from the premise of the research I read about.
- maxerickson 14y agoIt isn't so much that it must be identical, it is more that it is not easily differentiable. If most buyers are more concerned with "clean enough" than they are with "cleanest", the prices will reflect that.