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Yeah...it seems like there's been a proliferation of people who have never had anything to do with the "tech community" ever making broad characterizations ther

Yeah...it seems like there's been a proliferation of people who have never had anything to do with the "tech community" ever making broad characterizations thereof, e.g "The Tech Community Hates Feminists", etc.

criley 14y ago
It's also another shining example of being totally unable to separate the geeky hacker community with the larger internet community. Yes, every message put on every blog was done by a full time developer working in our industry and not by thousands of children and teenagers and adults who have nothing to do with us but joined the bandwagon as it rolled along. But hey, all nerdy men are all the same, right?
- nkorth 14y ago
  Agreed, equating the entire internet with the "tech community" is more than a little bit sensational. There certainly are misogynists in the tech community, but I doubt they were responsible for all of the overall backlash.
austinee 14y ago
You don't need to be a member of the tech community to see that. All you need to do is read the comments at any of the sites listed in the article. Yes, that includes HN.
- dccoolgai 14y ago
  Really? So you can ascribe sentiments like "Entire Community X Hates Community/Idea Y" based on comments in a forum? Try this one on; "Feminism Hates Technology". Sounds dumb, doesn't it? Because it's not a useful rhetorical approach to having a constructive debate - which, I am guessing by the hue of your comment, we would both strongly agree needs to happen. We need feminism in tech, for a lot of reasons - but not this "sensationalism at the cost of progress" flavor of it.
  - austinee 14y ago
    That's fair. I shouldn't judge the entire community based on its loudest online members. In any case, the sentiment in the article resonates with me, because it matches my anecdotal experience outside of online communities. I haven't seen the converse in the feminist community, but that's also anecdotal.
    - dccoolgai 14y ago
      austinee, sir or madam; I propose the following format for the remainder of this thread: We post awesome women engineers and developers for people to follow and be aware of. Let the rest of the internet wallow in its poisonous vat of sensationalist vitriol. Here, in our little corner of the internet, we will move the chain forward a few inches by enumerating incredible women in tech, the rest of the web be damned. Maybe no one will see it or care. But maybe - just maybe, some young lady will stumble across it and think "Hey, that could be me, too." and in that small chance will our entire effort henceforth be vindicated. Allow me to begin: (others feel free to contribute as well). Rebecca Murphey ( @rmurphey / http://rmurphey.com/ http://rmurphey.com/ ) : I owe her so much for writing her infamous Jquery/Javascript training guide. She is certainly one of the most pivotal figures in the Javascript renaissance. Her writing hits the sweet-spot of technical depth and approchability. I firmly believe that she is the kind of innovator that whatever she is doing now, the rest of us will be doing in 5 yrs.
    - dccoolgai 14y ago
      Next: Limor Fried ( @ladyada / adafruit.com) If you don't know who this is, you are already being left behind in the new landscape of physical computing. Easily one of the top 5 most infulential people in the "New Hardware" movement.
    - dccoolgai 14y ago
      Jeri Elsworth : @jerielsworth The hacker's hacker. Major thought leader in modern electronics/hardware hacking.

criley 14y ago

It's also another shining example of being totally unable to separate the geeky hacker community with the larger internet community. Yes, every message put on every blog was done by a full time developer working in our industry and not by thousands of children and teenagers and adults who have nothing to do with us but joined the bandwagon as it rolled along. But hey, all nerdy men are all the same, right?

nkorth 14y ago
Agreed, equating the entire internet with the "tech community" is more than a little bit sensational. There certainly are misogynists in the tech community, but I doubt they were responsible for all of the overall backlash.

austinee 14y ago

You don't need to be a member of the tech community to see that. All you need to do is read the comments at any of the sites listed in the article. Yes, that includes HN.

dccoolgai 14y ago
Really? So you can ascribe sentiments like "Entire Community X Hates Community/Idea Y" based on comments in a forum? Try this one on; "Feminism Hates Technology". Sounds dumb, doesn't it? Because it's not a useful rhetorical approach to having a constructive debate - which, I am guessing by the hue of your comment, we would both strongly agree needs to happen. We need feminism in tech, for a lot of reasons - but not this "sensationalism at the cost of progress" flavor of it.
- austinee 14y ago
  That's fair. I shouldn't judge the entire community based on its loudest online members. In any case, the sentiment in the article resonates with me, because it matches my anecdotal experience outside of online communities. I haven't seen the converse in the feminist community, but that's also anecdotal.
  - dccoolgai 14y ago
    austinee, sir or madam; I propose the following format for the remainder of this thread: We post awesome women engineers and developers for people to follow and be aware of. Let the rest of the internet wallow in its poisonous vat of sensationalist vitriol. Here, in our little corner of the internet, we will move the chain forward a few inches by enumerating incredible women in tech, the rest of the web be damned. Maybe no one will see it or care. But maybe - just maybe, some young lady will stumble across it and think "Hey, that could be me, too." and in that small chance will our entire effort henceforth be vindicated. Allow me to begin: (others feel free to contribute as well). Rebecca Murphey ( @rmurphey / http://rmurphey.com/ http://rmurphey.com/ ) : I owe her so much for writing her infamous Jquery/Javascript training guide. She is certainly one of the most pivotal figures in the Javascript renaissance. Her writing hits the sweet-spot of technical depth and approchability. I firmly believe that she is the kind of innovator that whatever she is doing now, the rest of us will be doing in 5 yrs.
  - dccoolgai 14y ago
    Next: Limor Fried ( @ladyada / adafruit.com) If you don't know who this is, you are already being left behind in the new landscape of physical computing. Easily one of the top 5 most infulential people in the "New Hardware" movement.
  - dccoolgai 14y ago
    Jeri Elsworth : @jerielsworth The hacker's hacker. Major thought leader in modern electronics/hardware hacking.