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>1. Do not hire eye candy as eye candy. Of either sex. Dressed up or dressed down. Eye candy is extremely effective in marketing. That's like saying "don't hi
by redthrowaway 14y ago
>1. Do not hire eye candy as eye candy. Of either sex. Dressed up or dressed down.
Eye candy is extremely effective in marketing. That's like saying "don't hire smart programmers". Why would companies handicap their marketing efforts?
- calibraxis 14y agoSure, that's why you retaliate against such advertisers. Boycotts, public campaigns, etc. Through such efforts, corporations have become noticeably less overt about using people of color and women as inferior objects for the amusement of the dominating classes.
- jiggy2011 14y agoI'm not sure how such a boycott would even work, insist that all advertising uses ugly women?
- calibraxis 14y agoNo need for body-shaming terms like "ugly women". In any case, the US civil rights, feminist and leftist movements have all sorts of successful case studies, if you are seriously interested in helping pursue this.
- jiggy2011 14y agoWell, you could say "women with body types that men are more likely to pay attention to" or as they are commonly known "models". Trying to get people to deprogram their own biology at a very deep level is probably going to be a losing battle.
- JulianMorrison 14y agoThe idea that men pay attention to supermodel shaped women is (1) sexist (2) very mistaken. Sexist men pay horny attention to them. Horniness is a distraction from a product pitch. "I'm sorry, what did you say again? I was staring at your chest."
- jiggy2011 14y agoMen don't pay attention to supermodels, are you sure?
- JulianMorrison 14y agoYou're missing the point. Look up, horndog, the face, and the product pitch is up here.
- jiggy2011 14y agoNow I'm utterly confused.
- summerdown2 14y agoThe idea that men pay attention to supermodel shaped women is sexist? Surely this is a parody?
- pekk 14y agoMen pay attention to whatever they like, and not all men are attracted to supermodel shaped women, and not all men are equally engaged sexually in situations which have nothing to do with sex or courting.
- theorique 14y agoThe idea that men pay attention to supermodel shaped women is (1) sexist (2) very mistaken. Do you know any men in real life? Unless you're just trolling, I find it hard to believe that you actually believe this.
- JulianMorrison 14y agoDo you know how to distinguish attention from horndogging? Hint: attention is that which is paid to the subject of the conversation. If all you can remember afterwards is "bow chicka wow wow", you're doing it wrong.
- JulianMorrison 14y agoWhen orchestras started doing tryouts behind an opaque screen, they found that their previous insistence that women couldn't play as well as men was bogus, because the interviewees that got the job were 50/50 male and female. You could get a third party to white out the gender cues on resumes before you sort them into the shortlist, and then conduct interviews over text skype. But honestly, someone who uses the concept "ugly women" is failing so hard at sexism already they might as well be a character from "Mad Men".
- jiggy2011 14y agoWe're talking about advertising where visual appeal is a key part.
- theorique 14y agoBut honestly, someone who uses the concept "ugly women" is failing so hard at sexism already they might as well be a character from "Mad Men". I suspect you mean they are succeeding at being sexist? Also, why is it sexist to acknowledge that some people are better looking than others? Clearly, making this sort of judgment about a non-customer-facing role is inappropriate, but is it wrong to acknowledge that looks play a part in customer contact[1] roles? [1] In person, obviously. No one care what the call center person looks like as long as they speak English.
- reinhardt 14y agoTIL finding a woman ugly is considered hardcore sexism. PC has moved beyond self-mockery at this point, it's surreal.
- JulianMorrison 14y agoThis is not art appreciation nor is it dating, it isn't even clothes modelling, it's product promotion. Have a little professionalism.
- jholman 14y agoDon't be an ass. Today you learned, at most, that at least one person thinks that finding a woman ugly is hardcore sexism. More generally, calling things "PC" is a lazy shortcut, a straw man attack. I mean, unless someone actually sincerely says to you "oh, reinhardt, you mustn't say XYZ, I want you to be politically correct". In that case, mock away. I absolutely disagree with JulianMorrison (that "us[ing] the concept 'ugly women' is failing so hard at sexism ..."). My disagreement has nothing to do with suspecting him of being "PC", nor do I dismiss other related claims from other people because of the existence of this statement.
- warfangle 14y agoHow about advertising that focuses on the product instead of a set of reproductive organs?
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- Tichy 14y agoSo pretty people would find it harder to find employment in advertising. Wouldn't that be severe discrimination?
- jack-r-abbit 14y agoIf I have learned one thing the past couple weeks it is this: It seems to be a common thought that it is not possible to discriminate against a privileged class. :/