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A life devoted to family is antiquated. After all, what revenue can be extracted from a man whose primary source of satisfaction are his commitments and devotio

by dmm 14y ago

A life devoted to family is antiquated. After all, what revenue can be extracted from a man whose primary source of satisfaction are his commitments and devotion to his wife and children? A man who compulsively watches youtube(tm) videos on his ipad(tm) all night can be show many more ads than one who spends the evening reading to his kids. Modern life is a constant assault of sophisticated propaganda(advertisements) imploring us to identify as consumers of brands and to be materially dissatisfied.

eli_gottlieb 14y ago
Consume? You think we get to consume? What arrogance! What luxury! The New Capitalist Man shall require no consumption, none at all, only his Work! He shall need only his Work and Work without end, for the self-sacrifice of toil is the one thing that can bring true liberty! He shall pray each morning to his one god, "Work makes free!" /rant ;-) EDIT: /prophecy
- anigbrowl 14y ago
  That's amusing but really wide of teh mark. cosndier how heavily automated many businesses are these day, and becoming more so. Labor is a shrinking factor in the equation, and ideally one that many capitalists would like as close to zero as possible - after all, machines don't go on strike or sing protest songs about their working conditions or demand variety or fulfillment from their labor. On the other hand, without demand, you can't sell your product, so as long as people are around then you have an interest in making them want your product.
  - eli_gottlieb 14y ago
    The lack of demand for work is the entire reason why the worker has to work harder. Got to offer more than the competition, after all!
- icebraining 14y ago
  I think you're confusing national-socialism with capitalism. The former are professed enemies of the latter.
  - eli_gottlieb 14y ago
    What made the Nazis' use of "Arbeit Macht Frei" so sickening in the first place was that it had been a moderately common German saying or proverb prior to that. It really was used to indicate that infinite labor brought spiritual freedom. It was, at one time, a saying more closely associated with The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism than with Mein Kampf.
    - icebraining 14y ago
      Point taken, thanks for the explanation.
Evbn 14y ago
Kids are incredibly expensive, so this parody doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
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- Killah911 14y ago
  I beg to differ with this common, and very subjective point of view. "Expensive" is subjective value judgement in this case. A kid is way less expensive than maintaining a supercar or maybe even a run of the mill Porsche... Breastfed babies are significantly less expensive and healthier to their formula fed counterparts. Much of the expensive things are discretionary spending, $200 car seat vs a hand me down or 2nd hand $20 car seat. If you're thinking expensive as in the amount of time that a child needs, then you might have a point, but then again, you could argue that blogging, giving back to the community etc etc are "expensive" since you could be making money during that time. As far as college goes, that again is discretionary spending. I worked my butt off and have tons of debt, and my parents shelled out $0 towards my college eduction. So a blanket "kids are expensive" statement is too generals and often spoken by people who haven't had a kid (or had one and went crazy buying expensive stuff for the kid). To me, they're a very effective time/money investment as are the community & non-pofit stuff I'm involved in. The Porsche, not so much...
  - roc 14y ago
    Health insurance for a family will far outstrip the costs of a Porsche and can give a supercar a run for its money. Hell, it can give a mortgage a run for its money.
    - Killah911 14y ago
      True, unless you or your spouse has amazing healthcare from work. But that's a whole different issue. If you're unhealthy yourself, even without having kids, healthcare can be pretty expensive.
rhizome 14y ago
You might be interested in this alternate take on the current Sheryl Sandberg mediascape: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2013/03/dont_hate_her_because_shes_suc.html http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2013/03/dont_hate_her_because...

by dmm 14y ago

eli_gottlieb 14y ago

Consume? You think we get to consume? What arrogance! What luxury! The New Capitalist Man shall require no consumption, none at all, only his Work! He shall need only his Work and Work without end, for the self-sacrifice of toil is the one thing that can bring true liberty! He shall pray each morning to his one god, "Work makes free!" /rant ;-) EDIT: /prophecy

anigbrowl 14y ago
That's amusing but really wide of teh mark. cosndier how heavily automated many businesses are these day, and becoming more so. Labor is a shrinking factor in the equation, and ideally one that many capitalists would like as close to zero as possible - after all, machines don't go on strike or sing protest songs about their working conditions or demand variety or fulfillment from their labor. On the other hand, without demand, you can't sell your product, so as long as people are around then you have an interest in making them want your product.
- eli_gottlieb 14y ago
  The lack of demand for work is the entire reason why the worker has to work harder. Got to offer more than the competition, after all!
icebraining 14y ago
I think you're confusing national-socialism with capitalism. The former are professed enemies of the latter.
- eli_gottlieb 14y ago
  What made the Nazis' use of "Arbeit Macht Frei" so sickening in the first place was that it had been a moderately common German saying or proverb prior to that. It really was used to indicate that infinite labor brought spiritual freedom. It was, at one time, a saying more closely associated with The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism than with Mein Kampf.
  - icebraining 14y ago
    Point taken, thanks for the explanation.

Evbn 14y ago

Kids are incredibly expensive, so this parody doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

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Killah911 14y ago
I beg to differ with this common, and very subjective point of view. "Expensive" is subjective value judgement in this case. A kid is way less expensive than maintaining a supercar or maybe even a run of the mill Porsche... Breastfed babies are significantly less expensive and healthier to their formula fed counterparts. Much of the expensive things are discretionary spending, $200 car seat vs a hand me down or 2nd hand $20 car seat. If you're thinking expensive as in the amount of time that a child needs, then you might have a point, but then again, you could argue that blogging, giving back to the community etc etc are "expensive" since you could be making money during that time. As far as college goes, that again is discretionary spending. I worked my butt off and have tons of debt, and my parents shelled out $0 towards my college eduction. So a blanket "kids are expensive" statement is too generals and often spoken by people who haven't had a kid (or had one and went crazy buying expensive stuff for the kid). To me, they're a very effective time/money investment as are the community & non-pofit stuff I'm involved in. The Porsche, not so much...
- roc 14y ago
  Health insurance for a family will far outstrip the costs of a Porsche and can give a supercar a run for its money. Hell, it can give a mortgage a run for its money.
  - Killah911 14y ago
    True, unless you or your spouse has amazing healthcare from work. But that's a whole different issue. If you're unhealthy yourself, even without having kids, healthcare can be pretty expensive.

rhizome 14y ago

You might be interested in this alternate take on the current Sheryl Sandberg mediascape: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2013/03/dont_hate_her_because_shes_suc.html http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2013/03/dont_hate_her_because...