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EXACTLY. We're constantly a step or two behind in terms of platform support. Why isn't there a top-tier platform company (or nimble upstart) out there taking

by Nrsolis 14y ago

EXACTLY. We're constantly a step or two behind in terms of platform support. Why isn't there a top-tier platform company (or nimble upstart) out there taking the lead and making a machine that has 100% driver support under Linux? I am holding out hope that the Piston might get us there, but I'm not holding my breath.

benev 14y ago
ZaReason (http://zareason.com/ http://zareason.com/) is another company that does. I haven't used them personally, but have heard good things about them.
Erwin 14y ago
My Dell XPS 13 (Developer Edition) came preinstalled with Ubuntu 12.04: http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/xps-13-linux/pd http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/xps-13-linux/pd (aka "project sputnik") I haven't used it or other laptops enough to say how good it really is (but hibernate etc. works, the screen and keyboard are nice compared to other ultrabooks I tried; it's light and clean). The trackpad is annoying though but I think I'll always prefer a mouse.
jiggy2011 14y ago
https://www.system76.com/ https://www.system76.com/ ?
- Nrsolis 14y ago
  They just take OEM laptops and sell them. They aren't doing any actual system design or driver writing to make sure that everything works correctly.
  - jiggy2011 14y ago
    I have never owned one, but I assume they pick hardware that actually has working drivers?
JoshTriplett 14y ago
> Why isn't there a top-tier platform company (or nimble upstart) out there taking the lead and making a machine that has 100% driver support under Linux? How about a Chromebook? They run Linux, and pointedly don't run Windows, so you know the hardware will work under Linux.
- rayiner 14y ago
  Do they get good battery life in Linux? I hear the Pixel gets shitty battery life, but I'm not sure whether it's Linux or a small battery at fault.
- Nrsolis 14y ago
  I really want the Pixel to get some traction. UNfortunately, the tiny SSD and no USB3.0 kill it for me.
TheLegace 14y ago
Get ready, I have been trying to get things together for a startup to accomplish this.
brian_cloutier 14y ago
System76 does this, my last few laptops have all been bought from them. They don't design their own hardware, but they only sell hardware that is well supported. Battery life is good, the price is great, and the support has always been amazing.
- rayiner 14y ago
  1" thick and 4.5 lbs for the 14.1"? What is this, 2006?
rogerbinns 14y ago
> Why isn't there a top-tier platform company (or nimble upstart) out there taking the lead and making a machine that has 100% driver support under Linux? Providing you stick to Intel (eg no Nvidia graphics) then the Thinkpad T series (and probably most others) work very well under Linux. Occasionally there are issues but Lenovo do fix them (eg BIOS updates). Of course Lenovo won't sell you one without Windows! The only thing that hasn't been supported in my last two Thinkpads (T430s and T61) has been the fingerprint reader. More accurately it is supported in dumb mode, but not in smart mode as it is under Windows. That is largely the fault of the company that makes the reader, although they have been bought by Apple so who knows what happens next.

by Nrsolis 14y ago

benev 14y ago

ZaReason (http://zareason.com/ http://zareason.com/) is another company that does. I haven't used them personally, but have heard good things about them.

Erwin 14y ago

My Dell XPS 13 (Developer Edition) came preinstalled with Ubuntu 12.04: http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/xps-13-linux/pd http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/xps-13-linux/pd (aka "project sputnik") I haven't used it or other laptops enough to say how good it really is (but hibernate etc. works, the screen and keyboard are nice compared to other ultrabooks I tried; it's light and clean). The trackpad is annoying though but I think I'll always prefer a mouse.

jiggy2011 14y ago

https://www.system76.com/ https://www.system76.com/ ?

Nrsolis 14y ago
They just take OEM laptops and sell them. They aren't doing any actual system design or driver writing to make sure that everything works correctly.
- jiggy2011 14y ago
  I have never owned one, but I assume they pick hardware that actually has working drivers?

JoshTriplett 14y ago

> Why isn't there a top-tier platform company (or nimble upstart) out there taking the lead and making a machine that has 100% driver support under Linux? How about a Chromebook? They run Linux, and pointedly don't run Windows, so you know the hardware will work under Linux.

rayiner 14y ago
Do they get good battery life in Linux? I hear the Pixel gets shitty battery life, but I'm not sure whether it's Linux or a small battery at fault.
Nrsolis 14y ago
I really want the Pixel to get some traction. UNfortunately, the tiny SSD and no USB3.0 kill it for me.

TheLegace 14y ago

Get ready, I have been trying to get things together for a startup to accomplish this.

brian_cloutier 14y ago

System76 does this, my last few laptops have all been bought from them. They don't design their own hardware, but they only sell hardware that is well supported. Battery life is good, the price is great, and the support has always been amazing.

rayiner 14y ago
1" thick and 4.5 lbs for the 14.1"? What is this, 2006?

rogerbinns 14y ago

> Why isn't there a top-tier platform company (or nimble upstart) out there taking the lead and making a machine that has 100% driver support under Linux? Providing you stick to Intel (eg no Nvidia graphics) then the Thinkpad T series (and probably most others) work very well under Linux. Occasionally there are issues but Lenovo do fix them (eg BIOS updates). Of course Lenovo won't sell you one without Windows! The only thing that hasn't been supported in my last two Thinkpads (T430s and T61) has been the fingerprint reader. More accurately it is supported in dumb mode, but not in smart mode as it is under Windows. That is largely the fault of the company that makes the reader, although they have been bought by Apple so who knows what happens next.