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Its a shit tool that creates issues and costs fuckwads of cash. That is it. We understand it. The numbers sold are not the numbers gained. The entire infrastr

by hp50g 14y ago

Its a shit tool that creates issues and costs fuckwads of cash. That is it. We understand it. The numbers sold are not the numbers gained. The entire infrastructure deployment was planned around virtualization, DC failover and resilience using VMware's guidelines and solutions (VMware were even paid to consult on this). It never delivered and doubled our administrative and licensing overhead.

incision 14y ago
>Its a shit tool that creates issues and costs fuckwads of cash. That is it. Calm down please. >The entire infrastructure deployment was planned around virtualization, DC failover and resilience using VMware's guidelines and solutions (VMware were even paid to consult on this). It never delivered and doubled our administrative and licensing overhead. That might say something about VMWare's specific solution and you being taken for a ride, but it's nothing intrinsic to virtualization as a tool.
druiid 14y ago
VMWare sales from what I have heard, has a history of over-selling, over-promising and ultimately getting people to spend a crap-ton of money on their products. Honestly I have to say, it sounds a bit like you guys got taken for a ride. I'd suggest sitting back, relaxing and taking a look at what other VM options there are out there, some of which don't have license fees attached to them. When I first deployed virtualization there were really only two 'enterprise' ready solutions out there which were essentially VMWare or XenServer. Knowing about VMWare and their 'history' I chose XenServer. I haven't regretted the choice but they wouldn't be a fit for everyone. These days there are multiple numbers of solutions out there to choose from, which Openstack may or may not be one for you... and that aren't going to whisper into your ear about how great their product is and how much money it will save you.
- simplexion 14y ago
  I see people being WAY-oversold on the SAN more than the software.
  - incision 14y ago
    I echo this observation. By now, I'd actually be more surprised not to find a VMAX or Shark in an "Enterprise" datacenter.

by hp50g 14y ago

incision 14y ago

>Its a shit tool that creates issues and costs fuckwads of cash. That is it. Calm down please. >The entire infrastructure deployment was planned around virtualization, DC failover and resilience using VMware's guidelines and solutions (VMware were even paid to consult on this). It never delivered and doubled our administrative and licensing overhead. That might say something about VMWare's specific solution and you being taken for a ride, but it's nothing intrinsic to virtualization as a tool.

druiid 14y ago

VMWare sales from what I have heard, has a history of over-selling, over-promising and ultimately getting people to spend a crap-ton of money on their products. Honestly I have to say, it sounds a bit like you guys got taken for a ride. I'd suggest sitting back, relaxing and taking a look at what other VM options there are out there, some of which don't have license fees attached to them. When I first deployed virtualization there were really only two 'enterprise' ready solutions out there which were essentially VMWare or XenServer. Knowing about VMWare and their 'history' I chose XenServer. I haven't regretted the choice but they wouldn't be a fit for everyone. These days there are multiple numbers of solutions out there to choose from, which Openstack may or may not be one for you... and that aren't going to whisper into your ear about how great their product is and how much money it will save you.

simplexion 14y ago
I see people being WAY-oversold on the SAN more than the software.
- incision 14y ago
  I echo this observation. By now, I'd actually be more surprised not to find a VMAX or Shark in an "Enterprise" datacenter.