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"This is serious. Though it never occurred on my computer because I use neither Windows nor Chrome but I support this anyway in the name of humanity." In the n

"This is serious. Though it never occurred on my computer because I use neither Windows nor Chrome but I support this anyway in the name of humanity." In the name of humanity, wouldn't it be nice if people were in the habit of shutting their computers down, rather than letting them burn through electricity all night long?

cvanderlinden 14y ago
Yeah well, we don't!
- ashleyblackmore 14y ago
  Excuse me, I couldn't hear you over my own goddamn tree-hugging self-righteousness! ^_^
notimetorelax 14y ago
IIRC Windows turns itself on to install updates and then shuts down.
- dublinben 14y ago
  It will actually restart after installing updates and make you wonder why none of your programs from the night before are still running.
  - joosters 14y ago
    It's worse if you've encrypted your hard drive. After a 3am windows update, my Sony laptop reboots and stops at the Truecrypt 'enter your password' boot prompt. But at this pre-boot point, there's no OS power-saving. So the CPU is at 100%, the laptop fan spins up to hurricane levels, and the dumb thing just sits there for the rest of the night like an overpriced fan heater.
    - grimman 14y ago
      In this usage scenario, it would probably be a better option to disable automatic updates and be vigilant about updates "manually". Windows will still notify you about updates, and it will be a bit of a hassle... but not a space heater kind of issue at least. :)
emilv 14y ago
I have found most humans to not care about their energy consumption. So in the name of humanity, I have at least one computer on 24 hours a day.
markokocic 14y ago
I hope google, facebook, hacker news and other web sites would start shutting down at least half of their servers during the night. And, when I say night, I mean night anywhere on this platnet, not just night in some particular time zone. That would help.
- rquantz 14y ago
  Ok, forgive me if I'm missing some sarcasm here but... you realize that about half the planet is in darkness at any given time, right?
  - b6 14y ago
    I think you're missing some sarcasm here. It's OK, I forgive you.
    - rquantz 14y ago
      Thank you. I should not respond to things at 4:00 in the morning.
- ohwp 14y ago
  Yes and all websites should have a black background ;) Related: http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/4373/does-a-webpage-with-a-black-background-save-energy http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/4373/does-a-webp...
chronomex 14y ago
I have electric heating, so the difference between using the baseboard heaters exclusively and using computers with the baseboard for supplemental heating is nil.
Already__Taken 14y ago
It's 2013, I haven't shut a computer down in 4 years. Hibernate everything.
- ashleyblackmore 14y ago
  It's 2013, and hibernation is broken in Ubuntu! :(
  - leephillips 14y ago
    Works for me on my seven year old Thinkpad.
    - ashleyblackmore 14y ago
      It doesn't work for me on my year-old thinkpad, or on my desktop, or on my server, and it is broken on two other computers I know of. Hibernation issues in Ubuntu aren't exactly an uncommon problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hibernate https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hibernate Additionally, it is disabled by policykit in releases past 12.04: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/policykit-desktop-privileges/+bug/812394 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/policykit-desktop-... So yeah, Hibernate is broken in Ubuntu in 2013, and your downvote doesn't change that
      - leephillips 14y ago
        I didn't downvote you. I am using 12.04.1, but I made a mistake, in that I confused hibernate with suspend. Suspend works for me; I've never tried hibernate. The link you provide mentions only hibernate in the title but seems to be talking about suspend as well. Strange, since suspend works for me and I didn't do anything to enable it. I don't dispute that suspend and/or hibernate is broken on many machines using some recent versions of Ubuntu. But it still "works for me": just another datapoint.
Helianthus 14y ago
or I mean just take charge of your technology instead of expecting it to babysit you through the night. Seriously, this is a ridiculous demand. It's impossible for a browser to manage every plug-in it has if you're not going to oversee your operating system.
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jnxfgf456 14y ago
Uh, how would that save power? We have a planned economy, the same power is being generated even if you don't use it.

cvanderlinden 14y ago

Yeah well, we don't!

ashleyblackmore 14y ago
Excuse me, I couldn't hear you over my own goddamn tree-hugging self-righteousness! ^_^

notimetorelax 14y ago

IIRC Windows turns itself on to install updates and then shuts down.

dublinben 14y ago
It will actually restart after installing updates and make you wonder why none of your programs from the night before are still running.
- joosters 14y ago
  It's worse if you've encrypted your hard drive. After a 3am windows update, my Sony laptop reboots and stops at the Truecrypt 'enter your password' boot prompt. But at this pre-boot point, there's no OS power-saving. So the CPU is at 100%, the laptop fan spins up to hurricane levels, and the dumb thing just sits there for the rest of the night like an overpriced fan heater.
  - grimman 14y ago
    In this usage scenario, it would probably be a better option to disable automatic updates and be vigilant about updates "manually". Windows will still notify you about updates, and it will be a bit of a hassle... but not a space heater kind of issue at least. :)

emilv 14y ago

I have found most humans to not care about their energy consumption. So in the name of humanity, I have at least one computer on 24 hours a day.

markokocic 14y ago

I hope google, facebook, hacker news and other web sites would start shutting down at least half of their servers during the night. And, when I say night, I mean night anywhere on this platnet, not just night in some particular time zone. That would help.

rquantz 14y ago
Ok, forgive me if I'm missing some sarcasm here but... you realize that about half the planet is in darkness at any given time, right?
- b6 14y ago
  I think you're missing some sarcasm here. It's OK, I forgive you.
  - rquantz 14y ago
    Thank you. I should not respond to things at 4:00 in the morning.
ohwp 14y ago
Yes and all websites should have a black background ;) Related: http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/4373/does-a-webpage-with-a-black-background-save-energy http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/4373/does-a-webp...

chronomex 14y ago

I have electric heating, so the difference between using the baseboard heaters exclusively and using computers with the baseboard for supplemental heating is nil.

Already__Taken 14y ago

It's 2013, I haven't shut a computer down in 4 years. Hibernate everything.

ashleyblackmore 14y ago
It's 2013, and hibernation is broken in Ubuntu! :(
- leephillips 14y ago
  Works for me on my seven year old Thinkpad.
  - ashleyblackmore 14y ago
    It doesn't work for me on my year-old thinkpad, or on my desktop, or on my server, and it is broken on two other computers I know of. Hibernation issues in Ubuntu aren't exactly an uncommon problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hibernate https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hibernate Additionally, it is disabled by policykit in releases past 12.04: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/policykit-desktop-privileges/+bug/812394 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/policykit-desktop-... So yeah, Hibernate is broken in Ubuntu in 2013, and your downvote doesn't change that
    - leephillips 14y ago
      I didn't downvote you. I am using 12.04.1, but I made a mistake, in that I confused hibernate with suspend. Suspend works for me; I've never tried hibernate. The link you provide mentions only hibernate in the title but seems to be talking about suspend as well. Strange, since suspend works for me and I didn't do anything to enable it. I don't dispute that suspend and/or hibernate is broken on many machines using some recent versions of Ubuntu. But it still "works for me": just another datapoint.

Helianthus 14y ago

or I mean just take charge of your technology instead of expecting it to babysit you through the night. Seriously, this is a ridiculous demand. It's impossible for a browser to manage every plug-in it has if you're not going to oversee your operating system.

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jnxfgf456 14y ago

Uh, how would that save power? We have a planned economy, the same power is being generated even if you don't use it.