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>To let women know that they will be supported when speaking out against sexism. To let everybody know we defend our own. Unfortunately in this case it was als
by obstacle1 14y ago
>To let women know that they will be supported when speaking out against sexism. To let everybody know we defend our own.
Unfortunately in this case it was also imperative not to give the impression that one condoned Richards's actions at the conference.
>Keep looking, then. I've seen plenty of it.
Your anecdote vs. my anecdote. Nobody wins this round.
>That claim has been debunked
First off, that blog post doesn't debunk anything. Everything Blum wrote still stands.
Second, that wasn't what I was talking about. Try these:
https://twitter.com/adriarichards/statuses/6039856858 https://twitter.com/adriarichards/statuses/6039856858
https://twitter.com/adriarichards/status/313946261055221760 https://twitter.com/adriarichards/status/313946261055221760
>I'm not seeing anything particularly horrible
People shouldn't have to fear political zealots tarring and feathering them publicly without a chance for defence or private resolution. Foster a culture of civility, not trigger-happy ignorant activism.
>Because of decades of effort to make tech, and everything else, less of an old boys' club
As far as I know the first programming language ever was arguably written by a woman. Women have _always_ been in tech, always will be in tech. The barriers are so much lower than sensationalist ideologues would have us believe. Especially vis-a-vis other industries. Here if you have chops, you're in. The women making things happen at PyCon are evidence of this, are role models for tech-leaning young women to look up to; evil snake oil salespeople whose only real skills are yelling loudly, as we had in this case, have no place in tech and are themselves discouraging women from entering the field.
>understanding why a sexually charged environment keeps women of merit out of tech
Skilled women aren't running away from tech because men could possibly say "penis" within earshot of them. Someone who takes extreme offense at a dongle joke to the degree that it prevents them from working in their preferred industry probably aren't mature enough to live in the real world, much less hold down an actual job. There's nothing sexually charged about penis jokes. Penises are for urinating too.
- wpietri 14y agoOk. It looks like we'll never agree. All I see is somebody using the cover of anonymity to defend his privilege. You apparently aren't talking to women in tech, and you certainly aren't listening to them. If I say X exists and you say you haven't seen it, your approach is to dodge. You're making big, fluffy straw men. You're straining at gnats and swallowing camels. And now, with the last paragraph, you've gotten to saying that there's nothing sexually charged about talking about big sexual organs. It's not my job to argue anonymous cowards into seeing obvious facts. Have fun.
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