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> As is the team’s “Food Wench” :facepalm: don’t get all up in arms Excellent. It's just marketing by using words that would otherwise be pejorative.

parfe 14y ago
I'm not sure Food Wench (servant) is in the same category as Marco Polo (worldwide trader), Dos Equis Guy(most interesting man in the world), and Jesse Pinkman (master cook).
dmor 14y ago
They've got a pirate theme going, get a sense of humor!
- jpdoctor 14y ago
  Perhaps you've missed the sexist issue postings. Wench = OK, get funded. Dongle = Problem, lose job.
  - dmor 14y ago
    This is off topic, let's focus on the awesome women fundraising for their companies today at Demo Day.
  - saraid216 14y ago
    Are you, like, context-challenged or something?
    - jpdoctor 14y ago
      Yep. Must be. I didn't think people should lose their jobs over "dongle", but apparently there's a lot of trigger finger around.
      - hurfdurferson 14y ago
        If it's any consolation, Adria got fired too. Anonymous griefers also DDoSed her personal blog, posted her phone number and address and those of her father online, and threatened her with rape and murder through multiple communications channels. Yes sir, it's pretty safe to be a guy in this industry right now, trigger fingers notwithstanding.
  - mindcrime 14y ago
    I'm pretty sure dmor is a woman... as such, unless you are as well, she's probably more tuned into issues around sexism facing women, than you are. And remember, not every reference to gender is automatically sexist. "Wench" is a word which is completely archaic in the modern world and almost never used in any context other than some reference to pirates / medieval times. To me, it seems like quite a stretch to try and paint this as sexism. But I'm a guy, so what do I know?
    - jpdoctor 14y ago
      > "Wench" is a word which is completely archaic in the modern world and almost never used in any context other than some reference to pirates / medieval times. Let's not whitewash, that's only half right: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wench http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wench
groby_b 14y ago
It's actually not pejorative. (The term "wenching", however, is. Go English language! :) It's not the most fortunate choice of title, but given that they're trying to create a pirate context - I'm not sure it's worth getting too upset about. (And please, before somebody wants to throw sexism accusations my way, do check my posting history :) Edit: I stand corrected. If urbandictionary is your source of what language means, it is pejorative. Interesting. I wonder if Vanessa was even aware of that.
- jpdoctor 14y ago
  It's actually not pejorative. (The term "wenching", however, is. Go English language! :) I've linked elsewhere: First defn from first hit on google: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wench http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wench
  - mbrameld 14y ago
    When I type "define wench" in to Google I get this before the Urban Dictionary result: Noun A girl or young woman.
    - testing12341234 14y ago
      Unfortunately, you stopped short according to [0] wench (wnch) n. 1. A young woman or girl, especially a peasant girl. 2. A woman servant. 3. A wanton woman. intr.v. wenched, wench·ing, wench·es To consort or engage in sex with wanton women. Used of a man. [0] http://www.thefreedictionary.com/wench http://www.thefreedictionary.com/wench
      - jack-r-abbit 14y ago
        and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wench http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wench: a historical British Modern English colloquial term for a lower class woman and/or promiscuous woman. Also in the 19th and early 20th centuries a term for a black woman, the male counterpart being "buck", both of which would be considered offensive and derogatory in modern times. and http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/wench http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/wench: a lewd woman : prostitute

parfe 14y ago

I'm not sure Food Wench (servant) is in the same category as Marco Polo (worldwide trader), Dos Equis Guy(most interesting man in the world), and Jesse Pinkman (master cook).

dmor 14y ago

They've got a pirate theme going, get a sense of humor!

jpdoctor 14y ago
Perhaps you've missed the sexist issue postings. Wench = OK, get funded. Dongle = Problem, lose job.
- dmor 14y ago
  This is off topic, let's focus on the awesome women fundraising for their companies today at Demo Day.
- saraid216 14y ago
  Are you, like, context-challenged or something?
  - jpdoctor 14y ago
    Yep. Must be. I didn't think people should lose their jobs over "dongle", but apparently there's a lot of trigger finger around.
    - hurfdurferson 14y ago
      If it's any consolation, Adria got fired too. Anonymous griefers also DDoSed her personal blog, posted her phone number and address and those of her father online, and threatened her with rape and murder through multiple communications channels. Yes sir, it's pretty safe to be a guy in this industry right now, trigger fingers notwithstanding.
- mindcrime 14y ago
  I'm pretty sure dmor is a woman... as such, unless you are as well, she's probably more tuned into issues around sexism facing women, than you are. And remember, not every reference to gender is automatically sexist. "Wench" is a word which is completely archaic in the modern world and almost never used in any context other than some reference to pirates / medieval times. To me, it seems like quite a stretch to try and paint this as sexism. But I'm a guy, so what do I know?
  - jpdoctor 14y ago
    > "Wench" is a word which is completely archaic in the modern world and almost never used in any context other than some reference to pirates / medieval times. Let's not whitewash, that's only half right: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wench http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wench

groby_b 14y ago

It's actually not pejorative. (The term "wenching", however, is. Go English language! :) It's not the most fortunate choice of title, but given that they're trying to create a pirate context - I'm not sure it's worth getting too upset about. (And please, before somebody wants to throw sexism accusations my way, do check my posting history :) Edit: I stand corrected. If urbandictionary is your source of what language means, it is pejorative. Interesting. I wonder if Vanessa was even aware of that.

jpdoctor 14y ago
It's actually not pejorative. (The term "wenching", however, is. Go English language! :) I've linked elsewhere: First defn from first hit on google: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wench http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wench
- mbrameld 14y ago
  When I type "define wench" in to Google I get this before the Urban Dictionary result: Noun A girl or young woman.
  - testing12341234 14y ago
    Unfortunately, you stopped short according to [0] wench (wnch) n. 1. A young woman or girl, especially a peasant girl. 2. A woman servant. 3. A wanton woman. intr.v. wenched, wench·ing, wench·es To consort or engage in sex with wanton women. Used of a man. [0] http://www.thefreedictionary.com/wench http://www.thefreedictionary.com/wench
    - jack-r-abbit 14y ago
      and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wench http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wench: a historical British Modern English colloquial term for a lower class woman and/or promiscuous woman. Also in the 19th and early 20th centuries a term for a black woman, the male counterpart being "buck", both of which would be considered offensive and derogatory in modern times. and http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/wench http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/wench: a lewd woman : prostitute