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> other p2p streaming applications don't either,hence why they fall down upon high demand. This patent does not claim anything novel. This idea of "clubs of pe

> other p2p streaming applications don't either,hence why they fall down upon high demand. This patent does not claim anything novel. This idea of "clubs of peers" or groups has been around for a while. This well known paper from Torino, Italy, written a few years ago: "overlays are maintained by peers organized in clusters that represent sets of collaborating peers", http://dx.doi.org/10.1109/TMM.2010.2077623 http://dx.doi.org/10.1109/TMM.2010.2077623 Disclaimer: my research team is part of the open IETF Internet Standard on P2P streaming which is directly competing with this patented technology, http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ppsp-peer-protocol/ http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ppsp-peer-protoco... Anybody else has an even older citation of prior art?

bramcohen 14y ago
The traditional overlay approach involves a bunch of full trees, and uses multiple trees as a way around dealing with leaf nodes being unutilized. My approach uses multiple groupings, which do not overlay, screams within them, and does something completely different for the last hop. They're completely different architectures. I have trouble taking seriously any paper which says that it makes heavy use of multiple description coding. If you have congestion control, skips should be an extreme and bad event.