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I have a number of problems with this. First off - the project itself is just not worth the effort in my opinion. There are a lot of email clients already in t
by skore 14y ago
I have a number of problems with this.
First off - the project itself is just not worth the effort in my opinion. There are a lot of email clients already in the FOSS world and most of them are pretty good. Not perfect, sure, maybe lacking polish - of course. But they do their job and that's really all I want from email. (And for a lot of things - like conversations - I actively try keeping them OUT of email.)
They try kinda-sorta hard to pretend that I'm living in a dreary pit of begrudging acceptance using Thunderbird on Linux, but that only works if that's actually the case. It's not. Search could be a tad faster, conversation might be neat, sometimes, and there probably are exotic cases where you have dozens of imap accounts open that things get sluggish. None of these are killer features that sell me on this project because none of these are out of reach for the applications that already exist. (And again, as an actual user, I don't really care.)
The video was... confused. I think they realized that you do need to "sell something" when you do a fundraiser like this, but all they came up with were minor features that felt lukewarm - both in the technical sense and in the way they were presented. There is very little about what their passion point is in all this, except "better" and "faster" and... kinda more like gmail and mail.app. FOSS Projects usually start out with pain points that need to be addressed and with passionate people who care very, very deeply about them. I don't see that here.
The telltale is when the project lead goes for the "we've come so far". And then lists... conversation view, an html composer and connecting to multiple accounts. And then we arrive at the point where he almost starts explaining why they need our help. Where they want to go with this. What will make this so amazing in the future. Why I should feel passionate about it and for them. Why I should want to give them my money.
Nothing of that happens, he just stumbles into the final sentence. Please donate to Yorba today. And that's really all there is.
Finally, I don't really think lines like "bring you software so good, you don't know it's Open Source" (and a lot of further weird stuff in the same direction) is anything but carelessly smug. I'm not sure they have any idea whatsoever what kind of audience they're selling to.
Sorry guys, but this is not how FOSS works. You can't piss in the river and then ask people to pay money to follow you further upstream.
- wtracy 14y agoAgreed--in particular, "software so good, you don't know it's Open Source" seems like a great way to alienate your audience. The people who think that Open Source is categorically low-quality are already happily using Mail.app or Gmail or even Outlook.
- monksy 14y agoI get the sense that the majority of this problem is that there is a lack of separation from the backend from the front-end. If you separate the two and have a decent front-end language you should get individuals to compete for having the best/most-usable front end. At least that was the dream of MVC.