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One thing affects the long term health of others around you. The other thing passes within a few moments. They are not comparable.

by rrouse 14y ago

MartinCron 14y ago
The other thing passes within a few moments Sure that one particular flurry of dick jokes passed in a few moments. Pervasive juvenile humor is part of a culture and environment that is hostile and alienating to so many. If you don't find that environment hostile and alienating, good for you! Not everyone is going to be exactly like you. Seriously, if childish little jokes are so damn important, they can wait until the proper context. They'll still be exactly as funny a little bit later in a more appropriate venue.
- WayneDB 14y ago
  I'm not so sure that the ultra-politically-correct environment that you're hoping for is going to solve your problem. Not everyone is going to be exactly like you. I'm feeling smothered just thinking about it. Seriously, if you think dick jokes are childish consider how much adult money they've made for adult comedians making adults laugh. Sure, you can censor people - but by the time you succeed in building your dream environment you'll only be surrounded by un-imaginative, un-courageous, do-nothing yes-men and that's exactly what you'll deserve. And no, the dick-jokes themselves are not that important. Freedom to be yourself though? Priceless.
  - MartinCron 14y ago
    You're misunderstanding me. I'm not advocating that everyone be exactly like me. I'm advocating professional conduct in professional contexts. My dream environment is one where everyone is aware enough to know that immature dick jokes might not be a welcome contribution to everyone within earshot. The same way that most people just know that cigarette smoke isn't a welcome contribution to everyone sharing the same air. Be as edgy and imaginative and courageous as you want, on your own time. Thanks.
- WayneDB 14y ago
  (nesting maximum reached) I don't think I'm misunderstanding you at all. You said that "juvenile" humor is pervasive. Wouldn't that indicate that the general consensus is that this type of humor is OK? Let's get it straight - the (very small) minority here want to make the environment more comfortable for themselves. (Also, nobody has ever explained to me why a joke or even a conversation about this one particular body part qualifies as "juvenile".)
  - MartinCron 14y ago
    Also, nobody has ever explained to me why a joke or even a conversation about this one particular body part qualifies as "juvenile" Here you go: Not all jokes or conversations about one particular body part are juvenile. The one in question was. I don't think any reasonable person would dispute that, even the guy who unfortunately lost his job over it. He's not exactly standing behind his joke as the pinnacle of human creativity and expressiveness. If your senses of decorum and humor have not yet matured to the point where you can tell juvenile and inappropriate behavior from the sort of thing that is OK in a professional context like an office or a convention hall, I legitimately feel sorry for you. It must be very difficult to go through life like that.
    - WayneDB 14y ago
      I can certainly discern what most people consider to be juvenile. You still haven't answered the question though. And do please refrain from the ad-hominem arguments.
      - MartinCron 14y ago
        I didn't mean to get all ad-hominem. Some people literally can't differentiate between juvenile and non-juvenile humor. Apologies . I haven't answered the question because the whole premise is flawed. You're asking why it's never appropriate to discuss some body parts, but that's not true. Extremely personal real world example: I had a urethral stricture biopsy done years and years ago (I'm OK now). Discussions in that context get clinical and professional very quickly. Nobody is making any snickering jokes in the operating room.

One thing affects the long term health of others around you. The other thing passes within a few moments. They are not comparable.

by rrouse 14y ago

One thing affects the long term health of others around you. The other thing passes within a few moments. They are not comparable.

MartinCron 14y ago

The other thing passes within a few moments Sure that one particular flurry of dick jokes passed in a few moments. Pervasive juvenile humor is part of a culture and environment that is hostile and alienating to so many. If you don't find that environment hostile and alienating, good for you! Not everyone is going to be exactly like you. Seriously, if childish little jokes are so damn important, they can wait until the proper context. They'll still be exactly as funny a little bit later in a more appropriate venue.

WayneDB 14y ago
I'm not so sure that the ultra-politically-correct environment that you're hoping for is going to solve your problem. Not everyone is going to be exactly like you. I'm feeling smothered just thinking about it. Seriously, if you think dick jokes are childish consider how much adult money they've made for adult comedians making adults laugh. Sure, you can censor people - but by the time you succeed in building your dream environment you'll only be surrounded by un-imaginative, un-courageous, do-nothing yes-men and that's exactly what you'll deserve. And no, the dick-jokes themselves are not that important. Freedom to be yourself though? Priceless.
- MartinCron 14y ago
  You're misunderstanding me. I'm not advocating that everyone be exactly like me. I'm advocating professional conduct in professional contexts. My dream environment is one where everyone is aware enough to know that immature dick jokes might not be a welcome contribution to everyone within earshot. The same way that most people just know that cigarette smoke isn't a welcome contribution to everyone sharing the same air. Be as edgy and imaginative and courageous as you want, on your own time. Thanks.
WayneDB 14y ago
(nesting maximum reached) I don't think I'm misunderstanding you at all. You said that "juvenile" humor is pervasive. Wouldn't that indicate that the general consensus is that this type of humor is OK? Let's get it straight - the (very small) minority here want to make the environment more comfortable for themselves. (Also, nobody has ever explained to me why a joke or even a conversation about this one particular body part qualifies as "juvenile".)
- MartinCron 14y ago
  Also, nobody has ever explained to me why a joke or even a conversation about this one particular body part qualifies as "juvenile" Here you go: Not all jokes or conversations about one particular body part are juvenile. The one in question was. I don't think any reasonable person would dispute that, even the guy who unfortunately lost his job over it. He's not exactly standing behind his joke as the pinnacle of human creativity and expressiveness. If your senses of decorum and humor have not yet matured to the point where you can tell juvenile and inappropriate behavior from the sort of thing that is OK in a professional context like an office or a convention hall, I legitimately feel sorry for you. It must be very difficult to go through life like that.
  - WayneDB 14y ago
    I can certainly discern what most people consider to be juvenile. You still haven't answered the question though. And do please refrain from the ad-hominem arguments.
    - MartinCron 14y ago
      I didn't mean to get all ad-hominem. Some people literally can't differentiate between juvenile and non-juvenile humor. Apologies . I haven't answered the question because the whole premise is flawed. You're asking why it's never appropriate to discuss some body parts, but that's not true. Extremely personal real world example: I had a urethral stricture biopsy done years and years ago (I'm OK now). Discussions in that context get clinical and professional very quickly. Nobody is making any snickering jokes in the operating room.