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"I just saw a person screw up, should I base my decision to fund an entire gender's disadvantage on a single person's irrationality?"

by mnicole 14y ago

pifflesnort 14y ago
I don't see how one can reasonably equate funding of a one specific organization with the concerns of "an entire gender", without knowing more about what that organization does with those funds.
- mnicole 14y ago
  If your assertion is that PyLadies would use these funds to encourage that type of behavior, that seems counter-intuitive to their purpose (plus on their CoC page, it outlines that photographic harassment is not allowed, among many others). If you are genuinely interested in what they'd do with the money, you should contact them instead of making the suggestion that women should stay where they are, alienating those of us already working here and furthering the logic that they shouldn't even bother. I don't have a problem with honesty for honesty's sake, but it doesn't change the fact that it's hurtful, if not the exact opposite thing to do right now. If we had an equal balance of men and women in this field, we'd have seen this whole thing go down differently.
  - pifflesnort 14y ago
    I didn't make the suggestion that 'women should stay where they are'. I asked what PyLadies does with raised funds.
    - mnicole 14y ago
      Ugh, my apologies. For some reason I confused you for the person who said that upthread.
- taligent 14y ago
  What exactly are you implying ?
  - pifflesnort 14y ago
    I'm interested in knowing how PyLadies applies their funds and how they do so in furtherance of positive and inclusive development of engineering community. Recent events have highlighted that there are some people and entities that take an offensive (and I believe counter-productive and negative) approaches to these issues. See also Violet Blue's talk being cancelled due to the efforts by the Ada Initiative (registered nonprofit).

"I just saw a person screw up, should I base my decision to fund an entire gender's disadvantage on a single person's irrationality?"

by mnicole 14y ago

"I just saw a person screw up, should I base my decision to fund an entire gender's disadvantage on a single person's irrationality?"

pifflesnort 14y ago

I don't see how one can reasonably equate funding of a one specific organization with the concerns of "an entire gender", without knowing more about what that organization does with those funds.

mnicole 14y ago
If your assertion is that PyLadies would use these funds to encourage that type of behavior, that seems counter-intuitive to their purpose (plus on their CoC page, it outlines that photographic harassment is not allowed, among many others). If you are genuinely interested in what they'd do with the money, you should contact them instead of making the suggestion that women should stay where they are, alienating those of us already working here and furthering the logic that they shouldn't even bother. I don't have a problem with honesty for honesty's sake, but it doesn't change the fact that it's hurtful, if not the exact opposite thing to do right now. If we had an equal balance of men and women in this field, we'd have seen this whole thing go down differently.
- pifflesnort 14y ago
  I didn't make the suggestion that 'women should stay where they are'. I asked what PyLadies does with raised funds.
  - mnicole 14y ago
    Ugh, my apologies. For some reason I confused you for the person who said that upthread.
taligent 14y ago
What exactly are you implying ?
- pifflesnort 14y ago
  I'm interested in knowing how PyLadies applies their funds and how they do so in furtherance of positive and inclusive development of engineering community. Recent events have highlighted that there are some people and entities that take an offensive (and I believe counter-productive and negative) approaches to these issues. See also Violet Blue's talk being cancelled due to the efforts by the Ada Initiative (registered nonprofit).