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PyCon had 500 women out of 2500 attendance. Gave away over $100,000 in financial aid. Gave away 2500 Raspberry Pi's. Thought kids to code. Raised $10,000 for th
by amix 14y ago
PyCon had 500 women out of 2500 attendance. Gave away over $100,000 in financial aid. Gave away 2500 Raspberry Pi's. Thought kids to code. Raised $10,000 for the PyLadies. Gave permission to publish amazing online videos etc.
And then you have these 3 idiots (and more online idiots) that steal the spotlight and everybody focuses on them. Sigh. Let's focus on the positive stuff!
- epsylon 14y agoI think at least two of them didn't want to be in the spotlight in the first place. And after what happened, probably the three of them.
- escaped_hn 14y agoI only saw 1 idiot (sans the online ones). Who were the other 2?
- martythemaniak 14y agoApparently sharing a joke with a friend now qualifies you as an "idiot".
- UnoriginalGuy 14y agoAnd not even an offensive joke either. They literally made a juvenile penis reference. Who here hasn't made one? Even made one today?
- gosukiwi 14y agoHaha, he said penis. /joke
- zaphar 14y agoMe. I don't think I've ever made one in a public setting. If I did it was long enough ago that I don't remember. Call me a prude if you want but it does mean that I will likely never be in the position of the two men who achieved infamy at pycon. I may achieve infamy for other reasons but not that one.
- taligent 14y agoMe. Because I am not 5 years old. So when I am at an event representing my company I act on my best behaviour. It's called basic professional conduct.
- WayneDB 14y agoPlease explain why jokes about penises are juvenile as compared to say...a joke about a paper airplane? How about just talking about penises? You know, just a normal conversation out loud, in a train full of people...about our penises. Is that really juvenile...or something else? (Or, you know, just downvote me because you don't like people questioning things that you accept to be true.)
- roc 14y agoDepending on what joke you make and where you make it, this has always been the case. Whether these particulars qualify as such a situation is open to discussion. But it's not some new social phenomenon.
- MartinCron 14y agoThere was a time, not all that long ago, when you could smoke cigarettes at your desk in a professional office context. Now, out of respect for the comfort of others in a shared environment, the general consensus is that you should take that toxic shit outside where we don't all have to endure it.
- taligent 14y agoI am starting to get the impression that a high percentage of people on here have never worked in an office before.
- rrouse 14y agoOne thing affects the long term health of others around you. The other thing passes within a few moments. They are not comparable.
- MartinCron 14y agoThe other thing passes within a few moments Sure that one particular flurry of dick jokes passed in a few moments. Pervasive juvenile humor is part of a culture and environment that is hostile and alienating to so many. If you don't find that environment hostile and alienating, good for you! Not everyone is going to be exactly like you. Seriously, if childish little jokes are so damn important, they can wait until the proper context. They'll still be exactly as funny a little bit later in a more appropriate venue.
- WayneDB 14y agoI'm not so sure that the ultra-politically-correct environment that you're hoping for is going to solve your problem. Not everyone is going to be exactly like you. I'm feeling smothered just thinking about it. Seriously, if you think dick jokes are childish consider how much adult money they've made for adult comedians making adults laugh. Sure, you can censor people - but by the time you succeed in building your dream environment you'll only be surrounded by un-imaginative, un-courageous, do-nothing yes-men and that's exactly what you'll deserve. And no, the dick-jokes themselves are not that important. Freedom to be yourself though? Priceless.
- jaibot 14y agoThe three people directly involved came out looking pretty good to me. The companies who started firing people and the horrifying online mobs that followed were the only parties I'd classify as 'idiots'.
- gcb0 14y agoand promoted sexism, twice. affirmative action is wrong. always. that's the reason racism/sexism/etc exist in the first place. everyone who feels superior donating to those causes are misguided egoistics.
- jaibot 14y agoThat's just wrong as a matter of historical fact. I feel fairly confident in asserting that race-based slavery constitutes a form of racism, and predates affirmative action by several centuries. This is...almost certainly trolling, right?
- illuminate 14y agoNope. Plenty of sincere MRAs in tech.
- UnoriginalGuy 14y agoSo everyone who doesn't believe in so called "positive discrimination" is an MRA automatically? Huh? You'll have to show me the logic you used to get from one statement to the other.
- pekk 14y agoThe word "discrimination" is loaded with an assumption that we are talking about a form of bigotry. If I want to make a scholarship for kids interested in history, particularly if such kids are rare and poorly supported, I'm not being bigoted against other kids.
- pekk 14y agoAffirmative action is not the reason racism exists. For example, slavery was a violently institutionalized form of racism. I am pretty sure slavery did not begin due to affirmative action.
- gcb0 14y ago
- lifebar 14y ago"3 idiots" 1 idiot that seeks attention and "spotlight" and 2 victims of that attention seeking.
- kaoD 14y agoAnd thanks to you everybody focuses in them once again.
- patrick-james 14y agoI'm glad for this piece to have come out of Pycon. After all the damage to the community, it's great to see how much good still came out of this event.
- Taylorious 14y agoHow ironic that now that you brought them up, the "scandal" is hijacking this thread and we aren't talking about this positive stuff.
- goldfeld 14y agoI was at first confused by your comment's negativity when the link seemed to be positive (hadn't clicked yet), especially since you use "these." Now as I understand you seem to have done exactly what you're advocating against. Congratulations on derailing a potentially positive discussion and stealing a spotlight.