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Next Big Thing, a HN-like site for music content

34 points by mxpxpx 14y ago

brador 14y ago
Is there an open source version of HN anywhere?
- captn3m0 14y ago
  You might like lamernews[1], made by antirez, which uses redis. [1]: https://github.com/antirez/lamernews https://github.com/antirez/lamernews
- deleted 14y ago
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- emillon 14y ago
  Closest you can find is news.arc, for example see a mirror on [1]. The canonical source should be in the arc distribution. [1]: https://github.com/wting/hackernews/blob/master/news.arc https://github.com/wting/hackernews/blob/master/news.arc
- thuijzer 14y ago
  Inspired by HN: https://bitbucket.org/thuijzer/linkdump https://bitbucket.org/thuijzer/linkdump (PHP)
- pseut 14y ago
  To add to the other replies: reddit's open source as well[0] and reasonably straightforward to set up (at least using their Ubuntu installer). Not your question, I know, but thought I'd add for completeness. [0] https://github.com/reddit/reddit https://github.com/reddit/reddit
- jaredmoody 14y ago
  When I developed NBT, I started with this: https://github.com/phil303/hacker-news-clone https://github.com/phil303/hacker-news-clone and then modified it beyond recognition :)
GotAnyMegadeth 14y ago
This site looks great, signed up. However: > Next Big Thing is not a place for ... anything else flat out offensive. One of my favourite bands at the moment is "Rotting Christ" that name alone is very offensive to some people. Does that mean I can't post stuff about them? Where is the line? Can I post anything Black metal related? What about Gore Grind? I think music has a much wider view of what is acceptable than tech. For example a lot of music/art is made with the sole purpose of being offensive. This is going to be hard to moderate.
- booruguru 14y ago
  I agree. Labelling music is one thing, but outright censorship will ensure your project never takes off. However, after looking at your site, I don't get it. I thought the music would be embedded in the page itself. Also, you have music and news/editorial links on the same page. What's more there's no tagging/categorization so I have no way of filtering music to my tastes. The site looks slick and you deserve kudos for the effort. But I think you should seriously consider the value proposition of "The Next Big Thing." EDIT: I just went back to you site and discovered that you do in fact separate music and news/editorial links.
  - breadnwater 14y ago
    Twitter censors, Facebook censors, Hacker News censors, and they took off. I can support my argument. Can you with yours?
    - Semaphor 14y ago
      Twitter censors location based after being ordered to do so. And none of them have something as weird as "offensive" as criteria for censoring.
    - GotAnyMegadeth 14y ago
      None of them censor music to my knowledge
- breadnwater 14y ago
uncoder0 14y ago
What is the value add over hypem or r/music?
- cm-t 14y ago
  ah, though exactly same as you !
- DanBC 14y ago
  or some of the more obscure subreddits, like (http://www.reddit.com/r/listentothis/ http://www.reddit.com/r/listentothis/) where you're supposed to upvote things new to you. I've found some great music there.
  - mehrzad 14y ago
    or r/musicnews. Music lovers are also used to reading blogs. Just things to keep in mind.
    - simba-hiiipower 14y ago
      or (shameless act of self-promotion, sort-of): r/musicindustry ..which is more narrowly focused around the business of music and industry-related news, for those interested
  - simba-hiiipower 14y ago
    doesn’t appear to be much at the moment, but i could see value in this as being less chaotic than r/music and more active than many of the genre-specific subreddits (though less focused). and while that would be nice, i feel this (and pretty much every similar site) misses a very real problem around music discovery.. in that, for very active consumers, there’s no efficient way to track and monitor releases of specific interest to them. sites like this, r/music, and hypem are fine for surfacing what the majority finds cool, but they in no-way replace the need to monitor and frequently check-in with numerous source blogs and other sites to cover all that an individual is interested in (a very inefficient and time-consuming task).. even more focused sites (and subreddits, if active), can never reach the level of personalization required to make them a reliable single-source for music discovery. don't get me wrong i frequent many and do find some great gems i'd otherwise have missed, but they're far from comprehensive.. and i don’t mean to discount anything here. it is a very difficult problem to solve given how disparate people’s tastes in music are, and even more so considering how widely distribution methods vary. i really feel anyone who can solve this problem would do quite well..
lewisflude 14y ago
I like this idea, but I can't see it's use. :(
thekillingtree 14y ago
I'll be sure to keep checking this out. It could end up being pretty good. A bit off topic: I'd love to see something like this but for motion graphics. I had planned to try to build it but that's clearly not my skillset, ha.
largesse 14y ago
It's not coming up. Load problems I suppose.
Cowen 14y ago
I'm not saying this was done on purpose, but I find this name and concept eerily similar to the music analytics startup Next Big Sound.
- jonathanjaeger 14y ago
  Agreed, the name is way too similar. The concept I think is different -- Next Big Sound provides a paid analytics service for labels, artists, and other music-oriented companies. Their consumer-facing product and partnership with Billboard and others does has a similar concept though. I find Next Big Thing to be similar to We Are Hunted and The Hype Machine as others pointed out, but the site's not loading for me so it's hard to judge.
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mlerner 14y ago
This seems similar to The Hype Machine. A site that gauges taste in music really needs lots of people using it for the "popularity" of a song to be useful.
- guiomie 14y ago
  I agree. Good luck to any website making me switch away from hypem.
cm-t 14y ago
Next Big Thing, a HN-like site for music content (/r/music)
DanBC 14y ago
This looks good, and I'm excited by the idea of finding music new to me. NBT itself seems to have died under the traffic, so I have some (perhaps stupid) questions: 1) How do you deal with voting rings and other gaming? 2) How do you deal with 'bubbles' - Some services keep me pretty tightly locked in to a certain bubble, when what I want is some leakage to explore and find new content.
edwardunknown 14y ago
The problem with this is most people have bad taste in music.
- Semaphor 14y ago
  From your POV ;) What I see as a problem is that it's probably going to become (if it gets really big) a copy of mainstream charts or (if a a genre group becomes the majority) only have music for that genre and related genres. I wish them the best of luck but I personally don't see a future.
mxpxpx 14y ago
Site got mentioned a few places and is currently down from traffic. In the post I do mention that you can do the same thing with reddit or following a ton of music related twitter accounts, but the voting and input from different people. We're not doing anything new, but I do think the presentation and appeal is there for nbt. If you are interested, bookmark the link, it should be up again shortly.
- pseut 14y ago
  A nice touch might be if voting reordered the site's RSS feed as well as the webpage. If you have a way to generate a podcast from submitted music, that could be a great combination. I have a lot of trouble following HN through an rss reader because the filter is so much worse, but there's no reason the .xml file should be in any different order than the html file. And podcasts have even worse navigation options than other rss feeds. This would probably not work with PuSH. But two separate feeds, one for PuSH and one that gives a voting-ordered snapshot when it's fetched, might let you target both the very-frequent and the casual users. (haven't been able to check out the site yet, so this point might be extra ignorant)
  - jaredmoody 14y ago
    The site does do this :)
Le_SDT 14y ago
Thank you for this :) It is sometimes hard to connect with new people and stand out. Created my account and posted my stuff as Psy Conversion ! EDIT : I liked the sign up experience, that was really quick, kudos for that !
hermaj 14y ago
Being middle aged and not particularly into music I'm surprised to find I'm already aware of most of the 'next big things' on the front page. I don't think this is a good sign.
RyanMcGreal 14y ago
Looks good so far - I've already discovered some great sounding bands. Just a few suggestions: * When you vote, the arrow should disappear. Instead, it just pops a notification saying you can't vote again - but there's no easy way to determine which songs you've voted on. * It would be great to see a page of links you've upvoted so you can refer back to songs you liked. Edit to add... * A way to exclude domains you can't use (e.g. Spotify, which is unavailable in some countries). * There's no need for the site to auto-scroll to the top of the page and display a Thank You message every time you vote.
- jaredmoody 14y ago
  Thanks for the feedback Ryan, appreciate it!

34 points by mxpxpx 14y ago

brador 14y ago

Is there an open source version of HN anywhere?

captn3m0 14y ago
You might like lamernews[1], made by antirez, which uses redis. [1]: https://github.com/antirez/lamernews https://github.com/antirez/lamernews
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emillon 14y ago
Closest you can find is news.arc, for example see a mirror on [1]. The canonical source should be in the arc distribution. [1]: https://github.com/wting/hackernews/blob/master/news.arc https://github.com/wting/hackernews/blob/master/news.arc
thuijzer 14y ago
Inspired by HN: https://bitbucket.org/thuijzer/linkdump https://bitbucket.org/thuijzer/linkdump (PHP)
pseut 14y ago
To add to the other replies: reddit's open source as well[0] and reasonably straightforward to set up (at least using their Ubuntu installer). Not your question, I know, but thought I'd add for completeness. [0] https://github.com/reddit/reddit https://github.com/reddit/reddit
jaredmoody 14y ago
When I developed NBT, I started with this: https://github.com/phil303/hacker-news-clone https://github.com/phil303/hacker-news-clone and then modified it beyond recognition :)

GotAnyMegadeth 14y ago

This site looks great, signed up. However: > Next Big Thing is not a place for ... anything else flat out offensive. One of my favourite bands at the moment is "Rotting Christ" that name alone is very offensive to some people. Does that mean I can't post stuff about them? Where is the line? Can I post anything Black metal related? What about Gore Grind? I think music has a much wider view of what is acceptable than tech. For example a lot of music/art is made with the sole purpose of being offensive. This is going to be hard to moderate.

booruguru 14y ago
I agree. Labelling music is one thing, but outright censorship will ensure your project never takes off. However, after looking at your site, I don't get it. I thought the music would be embedded in the page itself. Also, you have music and news/editorial links on the same page. What's more there's no tagging/categorization so I have no way of filtering music to my tastes. The site looks slick and you deserve kudos for the effort. But I think you should seriously consider the value proposition of "The Next Big Thing." EDIT: I just went back to you site and discovered that you do in fact separate music and news/editorial links.
- breadnwater 14y ago
  Twitter censors, Facebook censors, Hacker News censors, and they took off. I can support my argument. Can you with yours?
  - Semaphor 14y ago
    Twitter censors location based after being ordered to do so. And none of them have something as weird as "offensive" as criteria for censoring.
  - GotAnyMegadeth 14y ago
    None of them censor music to my knowledge
breadnwater 14y ago

uncoder0 14y ago

What is the value add over hypem or r/music?

cm-t 14y ago
ah, though exactly same as you !
DanBC 14y ago
or some of the more obscure subreddits, like (http://www.reddit.com/r/listentothis/ http://www.reddit.com/r/listentothis/) where you're supposed to upvote things new to you. I've found some great music there.
- mehrzad 14y ago
  or r/musicnews. Music lovers are also used to reading blogs. Just things to keep in mind.
  - simba-hiiipower 14y ago
    or (shameless act of self-promotion, sort-of): r/musicindustry ..which is more narrowly focused around the business of music and industry-related news, for those interested
- simba-hiiipower 14y ago
  doesn’t appear to be much at the moment, but i could see value in this as being less chaotic than r/music and more active than many of the genre-specific subreddits (though less focused). and while that would be nice, i feel this (and pretty much every similar site) misses a very real problem around music discovery.. in that, for very active consumers, there’s no efficient way to track and monitor releases of specific interest to them. sites like this, r/music, and hypem are fine for surfacing what the majority finds cool, but they in no-way replace the need to monitor and frequently check-in with numerous source blogs and other sites to cover all that an individual is interested in (a very inefficient and time-consuming task).. even more focused sites (and subreddits, if active), can never reach the level of personalization required to make them a reliable single-source for music discovery. don't get me wrong i frequent many and do find some great gems i'd otherwise have missed, but they're far from comprehensive.. and i don’t mean to discount anything here. it is a very difficult problem to solve given how disparate people’s tastes in music are, and even more so considering how widely distribution methods vary. i really feel anyone who can solve this problem would do quite well..

lewisflude 14y ago

I like this idea, but I can't see it's use. :(

thekillingtree 14y ago

I'll be sure to keep checking this out. It could end up being pretty good. A bit off topic: I'd love to see something like this but for motion graphics. I had planned to try to build it but that's clearly not my skillset, ha.

largesse 14y ago

It's not coming up. Load problems I suppose.

Cowen 14y ago

I'm not saying this was done on purpose, but I find this name and concept eerily similar to the music analytics startup Next Big Sound.

jonathanjaeger 14y ago
Agreed, the name is way too similar. The concept I think is different -- Next Big Sound provides a paid analytics service for labels, artists, and other music-oriented companies. Their consumer-facing product and partnership with Billboard and others does has a similar concept though. I find Next Big Thing to be similar to We Are Hunted and The Hype Machine as others pointed out, but the site's not loading for me so it's hard to judge.

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mlerner 14y ago

This seems similar to The Hype Machine. A site that gauges taste in music really needs lots of people using it for the "popularity" of a song to be useful.

guiomie 14y ago
I agree. Good luck to any website making me switch away from hypem.

cm-t 14y ago

Next Big Thing, a HN-like site for music content (/r/music)

DanBC 14y ago

This looks good, and I'm excited by the idea of finding music new to me. NBT itself seems to have died under the traffic, so I have some (perhaps stupid) questions: 1) How do you deal with voting rings and other gaming? 2) How do you deal with 'bubbles' - Some services keep me pretty tightly locked in to a certain bubble, when what I want is some leakage to explore and find new content.

edwardunknown 14y ago

The problem with this is most people have bad taste in music.

Semaphor 14y ago
From your POV ;) What I see as a problem is that it's probably going to become (if it gets really big) a copy of mainstream charts or (if a a genre group becomes the majority) only have music for that genre and related genres. I wish them the best of luck but I personally don't see a future.

mxpxpx 14y ago

Site got mentioned a few places and is currently down from traffic. In the post I do mention that you can do the same thing with reddit or following a ton of music related twitter accounts, but the voting and input from different people. We're not doing anything new, but I do think the presentation and appeal is there for nbt. If you are interested, bookmark the link, it should be up again shortly.

pseut 14y ago
A nice touch might be if voting reordered the site's RSS feed as well as the webpage. If you have a way to generate a podcast from submitted music, that could be a great combination. I have a lot of trouble following HN through an rss reader because the filter is so much worse, but there's no reason the .xml file should be in any different order than the html file. And podcasts have even worse navigation options than other rss feeds. This would probably not work with PuSH. But two separate feeds, one for PuSH and one that gives a voting-ordered snapshot when it's fetched, might let you target both the very-frequent and the casual users. (haven't been able to check out the site yet, so this point might be extra ignorant)
- jaredmoody 14y ago
  The site does do this :)

Le_SDT 14y ago

Thank you for this :) It is sometimes hard to connect with new people and stand out. Created my account and posted my stuff as Psy Conversion ! EDIT : I liked the sign up experience, that was really quick, kudos for that !

hermaj 14y ago

Being middle aged and not particularly into music I'm surprised to find I'm already aware of most of the 'next big things' on the front page. I don't think this is a good sign.

RyanMcGreal 14y ago

Looks good so far - I've already discovered some great sounding bands. Just a few suggestions: * When you vote, the arrow should disappear. Instead, it just pops a notification saying you can't vote again - but there's no easy way to determine which songs you've voted on. * It would be great to see a page of links you've upvoted so you can refer back to songs you liked. Edit to add... * A way to exclude domains you can't use (e.g. Spotify, which is unavailable in some countries). * There's no need for the site to auto-scroll to the top of the page and display a Thank You message every time you vote.

jaredmoody 14y ago
Thanks for the feedback Ryan, appreciate it!