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Scala will easily dominate the JVM largely due to web use cases. When you have companies like Twitter, LinkedIn, FourSquare behind it there is that air of cred

Scala will easily dominate the JVM largely due to web use cases. When you have companies like Twitter, LinkedIn, FourSquare behind it there is that air of credibility and longevity which companies look for when committing to a new technology. Plus the popularity of frameworks like Play doesn't hurt.

sultezdukes 14y ago
Scala is never going to "dominate" the JVM.
- happy_dino 14y ago
  Sure, except in talent and thought leaders.
laureny 14y ago
> When you have companies like Twitter, LinkedIn, FourSquare behind it How come none of these companies list a single Scala job on their web site?
- ratherbefuddled 14y ago
  > How come none of these companies list a single Scala job on their web site? Twitter and Foursquare seem to list many scala jobs. Have you looked? https://twitter.com/jobs/positions?jvi=oUebXfw0,Job https://twitter.com/jobs/positions?jvi=oUebXfw0,Job https://twitter.com/jobs/positions?jvi=o2nHWfwM,Job https://twitter.com/jobs/positions?jvi=o2nHWfwM,Job https://www.jobscore.com/jobs/foursquare/software-engineer/a_c2QE8Emr35TgeJe4bk1X https://www.jobscore.com/jobs/foursquare/software-engineer/a...
laureny 14y ago
> Scala will easily dominate the JVM largely due to web use cases. Not sure what you mean by that. The web situation on Scala is murky at best. First, it looked like Lift was becoming the de-facto standard web framework on Scala (which doesn't mean much in comparison to web frameworks on other platforms such as Java). Then Play switched to Scala and Typesafe decided to adopt it instead of Lift. Play 2 was (and still is) quite controversial because a lot of Play 1 users see the move to Scala as a step backward because templates take so long to compile right now. The result is that the web landscape on Scala is heavily fragmented and while Play 2 seems to be the standard on it today, this does very little to support your point that "Scala will dominate the JVM largely due to web use cases". Either way, Scala has been around for ten years and it still has a less than 5% mindshare on the JVM.
coolsunglasses 14y ago
Clojure is more popular than Scala for web stuff, especially among the startup set. Clojure is increasingly popular for analytics and data-driven use-cases, partly due to Marz.

sultezdukes 14y ago

Scala is never going to "dominate" the JVM.

happy_dino 14y ago
Sure, except in talent and thought leaders.

laureny 14y ago

> When you have companies like Twitter, LinkedIn, FourSquare behind it How come none of these companies list a single Scala job on their web site?

ratherbefuddled 14y ago
> How come none of these companies list a single Scala job on their web site? Twitter and Foursquare seem to list many scala jobs. Have you looked? https://twitter.com/jobs/positions?jvi=oUebXfw0,Job https://twitter.com/jobs/positions?jvi=oUebXfw0,Job https://twitter.com/jobs/positions?jvi=o2nHWfwM,Job https://twitter.com/jobs/positions?jvi=o2nHWfwM,Job https://www.jobscore.com/jobs/foursquare/software-engineer/a_c2QE8Emr35TgeJe4bk1X https://www.jobscore.com/jobs/foursquare/software-engineer/a...

laureny 14y ago

> Scala will easily dominate the JVM largely due to web use cases. Not sure what you mean by that. The web situation on Scala is murky at best. First, it looked like Lift was becoming the de-facto standard web framework on Scala (which doesn't mean much in comparison to web frameworks on other platforms such as Java). Then Play switched to Scala and Typesafe decided to adopt it instead of Lift. Play 2 was (and still is) quite controversial because a lot of Play 1 users see the move to Scala as a step backward because templates take so long to compile right now. The result is that the web landscape on Scala is heavily fragmented and while Play 2 seems to be the standard on it today, this does very little to support your point that "Scala will dominate the JVM largely due to web use cases". Either way, Scala has been around for ten years and it still has a less than 5% mindshare on the JVM.

coolsunglasses 14y ago

Clojure is more popular than Scala for web stuff, especially among the startup set. Clojure is increasingly popular for analytics and data-driven use-cases, partly due to Marz.