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Australia's education sector is catching the bug though. They want the profitable grad education, and thus Melbourne uni now offers only a JD (3 year graduate

by joonix 14y ago

Australia's education sector is catching the bug though. They want the profitable grad education, and thus Melbourne uni now offers only a JD (3 year graduate program).

jacques_chester 14y ago
UWA recently did this too, but then they partly backpedalled by offering guaranteed places in the following law degree. So really what you're getting is a 6 year double degree instead of a 5 year double degree. I think it's a bugger up, but I got my BCompSci (H1) and I'm happy I got in before the Melbourne Model struck.
- ValentineC 14y ago
  Most law degrees in Australia are double degrees, aren't they? I haven't found too many schools that offer single degrees in Law. Mind sharing with a non-Australian why that's the case there? (And if so, how it's different from doing a single Bachelor's degree and a JD after that.)
  - jacques_chester 14y ago
    > Most law degrees in Australia are double degrees, aren't they? You can take a straight LLB, which is a 4-year course. But most students figure "I'll take the double degree, it only takes an extra year and it covers my bases". If you are absolutely certain that law is your destiny, then the straight LLB is the right move because you'll be able to do more electives. If you're just getting a law degree because you got a high entrance score, then the double degree spreads the risk a bit. And some of them are great career-starters. Law/Commerce is a classic power combo for people looking to enter corporate Australia. Law/Arts is popular with activists and future politicians. Law/Science is around but it's a bit of a stepchild. I studied the LLB part-time for 4 years, so I wound up with a half-degree worth of debt. If I'd gotten my shit together I'd have been able to grab a graduate-entry LLB in about a year by carrying credit, but it was long enough ago now that those credits have largely expired. Plus I just don't see the point in loading up on more debt for something I feel I've already gotten the maximum value out of. I took an Honours year instead. If I did something else next, I'd be probably considering getting a bachelor in maths and stats. That's my real weakness. > And if so, how it's different from doing a single Bachelor's degree and a JD after that. Doing a B(whatever) and then a JD takes a little longer and because of our funding rules costs more. That's why some more prestigious universities are trying to push that model: it makes them more money because they get your so-so undergraduate fees and then they get juicier postgraduate rates on top. And for longer.
    - ValentineC 14y ago
      Those are great explanations. Thanks!

by joonix 14y ago

Australia's education sector is catching the bug though. They want the profitable grad education, and thus Melbourne uni now offers only a JD (3 year graduate program).

jacques_chester 14y ago

UWA recently did this too, but then they partly backpedalled by offering guaranteed places in the following law degree. So really what you're getting is a 6 year double degree instead of a 5 year double degree. I think it's a bugger up, but I got my BCompSci (H1) and I'm happy I got in before the Melbourne Model struck.

ValentineC 14y ago
Most law degrees in Australia are double degrees, aren't they? I haven't found too many schools that offer single degrees in Law. Mind sharing with a non-Australian why that's the case there? (And if so, how it's different from doing a single Bachelor's degree and a JD after that.)
- jacques_chester 14y ago
  > Most law degrees in Australia are double degrees, aren't they? You can take a straight LLB, which is a 4-year course. But most students figure "I'll take the double degree, it only takes an extra year and it covers my bases". If you are absolutely certain that law is your destiny, then the straight LLB is the right move because you'll be able to do more electives. If you're just getting a law degree because you got a high entrance score, then the double degree spreads the risk a bit. And some of them are great career-starters. Law/Commerce is a classic power combo for people looking to enter corporate Australia. Law/Arts is popular with activists and future politicians. Law/Science is around but it's a bit of a stepchild. I studied the LLB part-time for 4 years, so I wound up with a half-degree worth of debt. If I'd gotten my shit together I'd have been able to grab a graduate-entry LLB in about a year by carrying credit, but it was long enough ago now that those credits have largely expired. Plus I just don't see the point in loading up on more debt for something I feel I've already gotten the maximum value out of. I took an Honours year instead. If I did something else next, I'd be probably considering getting a bachelor in maths and stats. That's my real weakness. > And if so, how it's different from doing a single Bachelor's degree and a JD after that. Doing a B(whatever) and then a JD takes a little longer and because of our funding rules costs more. That's why some more prestigious universities are trying to push that model: it makes them more money because they get your so-so undergraduate fees and then they get juicier postgraduate rates on top. And for longer.
  - ValentineC 14y ago
    Those are great explanations. Thanks!