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Where does it end? If a religious person is deeply offended by a talk that references "My Two Dads" -- should that talk be banned? Should references to evolut

Where does it end? If a religious person is deeply offended by a talk that references "My Two Dads" -- should that talk be banned? Should references to evolution, gay rights, anything that might offend anyone be banned? Being offended DOES NOT GIVE YOU RIGHTS, it is just you being offended, get over it.

dalke 14y ago
Voting a talk up or down is not the same as banning. Voting is an indication that some subgroup of people have a specific view, either positive or negative, towards a talk. The selection committee can use that information to guide their selection. They may even go back to the person and point out that while the talk content is very appropriate, it's structured in such a way that incidental aspects (eg, a joke about "Hans Reiser killing women attendees" at a talk at linux.conf.au) will detract from the talk and blunt the actual content. Or they may decide that the content is important enough to override the vote. You are right, by the way. In the US context, being offended goes not give anyone rights. What gives people rights is the law. The law prohibits discrimination in the workplace based on sex, the laws says that sexual harassment is a form of discrimination based on sex, the law says that frequent and unwanted dirty jokes at the workplace can be a form of sexual harassment, and the law says that if someone doesn't like dirty jokes in the workplace then the first step is to file a complaint. And the law gives wide latitude to what the complaint can be, including making a complaint in public, and says that making a complaint gives extra protections against retaliation. So no, being offended does not give people rights. Civil rights laws give people rights. As to your examples, the law does not say that references to evolution, gay rights, etc. are in violation of the laws against discrimination in the workplace. However, if the only Young Earth Creationist in the company was always singled out as the person to write the "earth geology" transcripts, and there was no special business reason why that Y.E.C. should be singled out, then that Y.E.C may file a complaint for discrimination based on religious beliefs. Because singling out someone in the workplace based on their religious belief is against the law.

dalke 14y ago

Voting a talk up or down is not the same as banning. Voting is an indication that some subgroup of people have a specific view, either positive or negative, towards a talk. The selection committee can use that information to guide their selection. They may even go back to the person and point out that while the talk content is very appropriate, it's structured in such a way that incidental aspects (eg, a joke about "Hans Reiser killing women attendees" at a talk at linux.conf.au) will detract from the talk and blunt the actual content. Or they may decide that the content is important enough to override the vote. You are right, by the way. In the US context, being offended goes not give anyone rights. What gives people rights is the law. The law prohibits discrimination in the workplace based on sex, the laws says that sexual harassment is a form of discrimination based on sex, the law says that frequent and unwanted dirty jokes at the workplace can be a form of sexual harassment, and the law says that if someone doesn't like dirty jokes in the workplace then the first step is to file a complaint. And the law gives wide latitude to what the complaint can be, including making a complaint in public, and says that making a complaint gives extra protections against retaliation. So no, being offended does not give people rights. Civil rights laws give people rights. As to your examples, the law does not say that references to evolution, gay rights, etc. are in violation of the laws against discrimination in the workplace. However, if the only Young Earth Creationist in the company was always singled out as the person to write the "earth geology" transcripts, and there was no special business reason why that Y.E.C. should be singled out, then that Y.E.C may file a complaint for discrimination based on religious beliefs. Because singling out someone in the workplace based on their religious belief is against the law.