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I'm hiring at the moment for CircleCI, and if you don't have a reason to work with us, that's a real red flag. That says you have no particular interest in the

by pbiggar 14y ago

I'm hiring at the moment for CircleCI, and if you don't have a reason to work with us, that's a real red flag. That says you have no particular interest in the job, which means you either don't care about what we're building or what our customers need, or you might jump ship if a job comes up that you really do want. That said, you applied for a job here, so there must be some reason you want it. Maybe "I ended up in a really bad job and I want people who care about their craft", "I love Clojure and you guys write everything in clojure", or "I love your flat organizational structure", or "I like making developer tools". But "i need a job" is a terrible answer, and won't even get you past the phone screen.

SilasX 14y ago
>"i need a job" is a terrible answer, and won't even get you past the phone screen. Which is why it should be part of the phone screen. In the article, they didn't even ask this until after the 5 hours of interviews. Ouch.
ahk 14y ago
Every girl wants to feel 'special' too. But really, there's 3.5 billion of them. You are just going to weed out all the people who are not bullshitting you, and take in all the people who will. And amazingly, you are happy proclaiming this! I'd thank you for weeding me out though. I like reality. Don't like happy rainbow snowflake dreamland, which you've just outed your company as. Since such things never last.
- jtheory 14y ago
  Meh. Look at the example reasons in the post you're responding to; you don't need an answer like "I want to save the world, and I'm pretty sure the best place to start is in the plastic chair manufacturing sector". If the best you can offer is "uh I need a job" that means you don't know a damned thing about the company you're applying to, doesn't it? I.e., you found a list of 30 companies that are offering jobs in your city that vaguely match your CV, and instead of reading about them and choosing a few, you're taking the shotgun approach. If you read about them, what made you choose this one? Do they seem like they have a culture that's better than your last job? Do they use a language you like (and/or would like to use more)? Are they doing something you know anything about, or find interesting at all, or can at least categorize as "not morally objectionable"? Almost anything is better than "I need a job".
- cujo 14y ago
  The 'feel special' analogy is a terrible one. Surely you don't propose picking the first person off the street to marry just because they want to be married?
- pbiggar 14y ago
  It took me a long time to find the special girl for me. If you approach dating as "any girl will do", then I feel sorry for the girl that ends up with you. I don't know how you translated "wanting to hire people who want to work here" into "happy rainbow snowflake dreamland", but so long as people who don't care about our product or market feel weeded out, then I'm happy. For others reading this who do actually care about the people, product and technology you work with, please let me know at jobs@circleci.com.

by pbiggar 14y ago

SilasX 14y ago

>"i need a job" is a terrible answer, and won't even get you past the phone screen. Which is why it should be part of the phone screen. In the article, they didn't even ask this until after the 5 hours of interviews. Ouch.

ahk 14y ago

Every girl wants to feel 'special' too. But really, there's 3.5 billion of them. You are just going to weed out all the people who are not bullshitting you, and take in all the people who will. And amazingly, you are happy proclaiming this! I'd thank you for weeding me out though. I like reality. Don't like happy rainbow snowflake dreamland, which you've just outed your company as. Since such things never last.

jtheory 14y ago
Meh. Look at the example reasons in the post you're responding to; you don't need an answer like "I want to save the world, and I'm pretty sure the best place to start is in the plastic chair manufacturing sector". If the best you can offer is "uh I need a job" that means you don't know a damned thing about the company you're applying to, doesn't it? I.e., you found a list of 30 companies that are offering jobs in your city that vaguely match your CV, and instead of reading about them and choosing a few, you're taking the shotgun approach. If you read about them, what made you choose this one? Do they seem like they have a culture that's better than your last job? Do they use a language you like (and/or would like to use more)? Are they doing something you know anything about, or find interesting at all, or can at least categorize as "not morally objectionable"? Almost anything is better than "I need a job".
cujo 14y ago
The 'feel special' analogy is a terrible one. Surely you don't propose picking the first person off the street to marry just because they want to be married?
pbiggar 14y ago
It took me a long time to find the special girl for me. If you approach dating as "any girl will do", then I feel sorry for the girl that ends up with you. I don't know how you translated "wanting to hire people who want to work here" into "happy rainbow snowflake dreamland", but so long as people who don't care about our product or market feel weeded out, then I'm happy. For others reading this who do actually care about the people, product and technology you work with, please let me know at jobs@circleci.com.