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Can't tell if elaborate troll or serious... "lack of gener[al] privacy": Wasn't Google the first major webmail provider to provide SSL access (and encourage i
by philsnow 14y ago
Can't tell if elaborate troll or serious...
"lack of gener[al] privacy": Wasn't Google the first major webmail provider to provide SSL access (and encourage it)?
"no way to get your data back": http://google.com/takeout http://google.com/takeout
"run by the traditional corporate drone": Would that be Eric Schmidt, who got a Ph.D. from Berkeley in EECS and co-wrote lex ? Or Larry Page, who left Stanford's graduate degree program to be an entrepreneur in 1998?
If Nuuton is worth anybody's attention, you won't need to lower yourself to this kind of post.
- gwern 14y ago> These companies are now turning against those who made them what thu are. Worst is that they turned against us, the hackers. All your examples are in the past, except for Takeout, and I would no more put much money on that surviving in a full-strength form (if at all) for the next 10 years than I would Blogger or Keep staying up and active.
- nostrademons 14y agoSSL is still the default for both GMail and Websearch. Larry Page is still the current CEO of Google.
- gwern 14y agoNot rolling back some changes they made long ago is not very impressive a defense. > Larry Page is still the current CEO of Google. 'Still'? Schmidt was CEO for a large chunk of Google's existence. And yes, Page does seem to be the problem. I'm reading _In The Plex_ now, and maybe it's just me projecting, but Page seems to come off as a autistic asshole with problems and the book speculates it's related to his father's death.
- nostrademons 14y agoI'm unsure what your point is. philsnow pointed out that both Schmidt and Page are not your typical corporate drones (they have serious technical contributions as individuals), and your response is that it was Schmidt and not Page who was CEO for much of Google's existence?
- gwern 14y agoI was pointing out that 'still' seemed to involve a misapprehension. And your comment completely ignores my first point that not actively dismantling past good contributions is very far from demonstrating that they are not turning against hackers.
- OGinparadise 14y agoboth Schmidt and Page are not your typical corporate drones (they have serious technical contributions as individuals) Unlike Bill Gates and Larry Ellison?
- tlholaday 14y ago> Can't tell if elaborate troll or serious... Based on gwern's answer to you, I think s/he is serious.
- mprovost 14y agoI read the typo as "gen[d]er privacy".
- philsnow 14y agooh well, that is valid then. retracted.