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Is this seriously the future? Where people are so lazy they can't use any strength at all to open a fridge or pressing a goddamn button to open a garage? Guess

by kunai 14y ago

Is this seriously the future? Where people are so lazy they can't use any strength at all to open a fridge or pressing a goddamn button to open a garage? Guess I should have seen it coming. I'll commit suicide long before this kind of "technology" arrives. Only because it's not technology. It does nothing to advance the human race except make them lazier. Stop the madness. /old person rant

infoman 14y ago
Y U NO walk to wallmart? Why do you drive by car?
- kunai 14y ago
  I do walk to the local grocery store. I don't own a car.
devcpp 14y ago
>I'll commit suicide long before this kind of "technology" arrives. That's kind of strong... >It does nothing to advance the human race except make them lazier. You seem to believe that humans are supposed to use their muscles to do stuff. But why should we not voluntarily "evolve" to become intelligences that control our environment through our brains and harness it through minimal interactions? Is our goal not to discover everything and discard unimportant distractions such as opening the fridge and going to the mall from the seeking of knowledge? It's a matter of opinions, but just remember that this is not intrinsincally bad. If we can alter our bodies to become detached from physical needs such as feeding, sleeping and everything that we do to prevent our deaths, I can say I'd embrace it.
- kunai 14y ago
  I admit, the suicide part was far-fetched, but tell me once that you'd like to sit in front of a computer all day, absorbing knowledge endlessly. No food. No walking. No sleeping. No sex. Tell me that you would want that. Who wants to be a brain?
  - zimbatm 14y ago
    me
  - Cushman 14y ago
    I am a brain, wired permanently to a pretty primitive first-run body. It works okay, but it's all downhill for the next fifty-eighty years or so. Why on earth wouldn't I want to upgrade that?
    - samstave 14y ago
      Your body is not primitive, try becoming advanced at a complex martial art, a sport or an artisan of a beautiful craft. Look into history at the things built with our bodies. The only thing primitive is thinking that our bodies are not exquisite works of artistic science in this utterly beautiful universe.
      - Cushman 14y ago
        Imagine a descendant of humanity fifty thousand years from now unearthing my bones and tell me I'm not primitive. When you worship the beauty and wonder of the universe, don't forget to include the most wonderful part: the future.
        samstave 14y ago
        While that may be true, your conscious only experiences the Now, and focusing on what other form conscious will take in the future and not enjoying what you are now could rob you of deeply experience what you already are.
        Cushman 14y ago
        One of the things I'm experiencing Now is a sense of limitless unfolding possibility for the future. Ignoring that would also rob me of a deep experience of what I have.
  - 14y ago
Lambdanaut 14y ago
It's not like using that strength to open the fridge is beneficial in any way. You're not going to pump iron flipping your light switch, man. The more time I save managing the daily nuisances of my house, the more I can spend on my exercise routine, and other things that require actual mental effort.
- doctorstupid 14y ago
  What's the point in opening a fridge remotely if you're not there to take food out? Jokes aside, I get your point, but I have concerns. The more we dislocate our physical presence from our environment, the less our environment will require us over anyone else. Your fridge, by needing a physical operator to share its location in space, provides a safeguard against someone on the other side of the world hacking it and ruining your food.
aquaroris 14y ago
What I'm beginning to think is that the "make life easier" and more convenient isn't the primary reason for doing what Google is doing nowadays. Sure, these things make your life that much more accessible, but as opposed to that being the selling point of the product, it is a sort of a hook, an enticement. It seems to be that by capturing more parts of our personal lives, Google will be able to develop better human language algorithms and sentiment analysis algorithms. I think what we say and correspond in public is a filtered, impersonal language highly adapted to the audience we are speaking to. In addition, language deals a lot with the environment and a lot with contextual and non-verbal clues, more, I suspect, than linguists think. Hence it is difficult to develop accurate human language models from impersonal, public correspondence. But by going into the home, Google will have a better opportunity to directly observe the emotional core that shapes the deepest beliefs and opinions of its consumers, and serve targeted ads to the categories of people who will respond best to said targeted ads. Of course, the data collected have more value than targeted ads. But I think it's well worth keeping an eye on the advertising industry and taking note how their advertisements shape (irrational) demand.

by kunai 14y ago

infoman 14y ago

Y U NO walk to wallmart? Why do you drive by car?

kunai 14y ago
I do walk to the local grocery store. I don't own a car.

devcpp 14y ago

>I'll commit suicide long before this kind of "technology" arrives. That's kind of strong... >It does nothing to advance the human race except make them lazier. You seem to believe that humans are supposed to use their muscles to do stuff. But why should we not voluntarily "evolve" to become intelligences that control our environment through our brains and harness it through minimal interactions? Is our goal not to discover everything and discard unimportant distractions such as opening the fridge and going to the mall from the seeking of knowledge? It's a matter of opinions, but just remember that this is not intrinsincally bad. If we can alter our bodies to become detached from physical needs such as feeding, sleeping and everything that we do to prevent our deaths, I can say I'd embrace it.

kunai 14y ago
I admit, the suicide part was far-fetched, but tell me once that you'd like to sit in front of a computer all day, absorbing knowledge endlessly. No food. No walking. No sleeping. No sex. Tell me that you would want that. Who wants to be a brain?
- zimbatm 14y ago
  me
- Cushman 14y ago
  I am a brain, wired permanently to a pretty primitive first-run body. It works okay, but it's all downhill for the next fifty-eighty years or so. Why on earth wouldn't I want to upgrade that?
  - samstave 14y ago
    Your body is not primitive, try becoming advanced at a complex martial art, a sport or an artisan of a beautiful craft. Look into history at the things built with our bodies. The only thing primitive is thinking that our bodies are not exquisite works of artistic science in this utterly beautiful universe.
    - Cushman 14y ago
      Imagine a descendant of humanity fifty thousand years from now unearthing my bones and tell me I'm not primitive. When you worship the beauty and wonder of the universe, don't forget to include the most wonderful part: the future.
      - samstave 14y ago
        While that may be true, your conscious only experiences the Now, and focusing on what other form conscious will take in the future and not enjoying what you are now could rob you of deeply experience what you already are.
        Cushman 14y ago
        One of the things I'm experiencing Now is a sense of limitless unfolding possibility for the future. Ignoring that would also rob me of a deep experience of what I have.
- 14y ago

Lambdanaut 14y ago

It's not like using that strength to open the fridge is beneficial in any way. You're not going to pump iron flipping your light switch, man. The more time I save managing the daily nuisances of my house, the more I can spend on my exercise routine, and other things that require actual mental effort.

doctorstupid 14y ago
What's the point in opening a fridge remotely if you're not there to take food out? Jokes aside, I get your point, but I have concerns. The more we dislocate our physical presence from our environment, the less our environment will require us over anyone else. Your fridge, by needing a physical operator to share its location in space, provides a safeguard against someone on the other side of the world hacking it and ruining your food.

aquaroris 14y ago

What I'm beginning to think is that the "make life easier" and more convenient isn't the primary reason for doing what Google is doing nowadays. Sure, these things make your life that much more accessible, but as opposed to that being the selling point of the product, it is a sort of a hook, an enticement. It seems to be that by capturing more parts of our personal lives, Google will be able to develop better human language algorithms and sentiment analysis algorithms. I think what we say and correspond in public is a filtered, impersonal language highly adapted to the audience we are speaking to. In addition, language deals a lot with the environment and a lot with contextual and non-verbal clues, more, I suspect, than linguists think. Hence it is difficult to develop accurate human language models from impersonal, public correspondence. But by going into the home, Google will have a better opportunity to directly observe the emotional core that shapes the deepest beliefs and opinions of its consumers, and serve targeted ads to the categories of people who will respond best to said targeted ads. Of course, the data collected have more value than targeted ads. But I think it's well worth keeping an eye on the advertising industry and taking note how their advertisements shape (irrational) demand.