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Hi, I designed the shirt. I didn't intend for this to come off as mean spirited. There have been overreactions on both sides of this whole mess. We made this s

Hi, I designed the shirt. I didn't intend for this to come off as mean spirited. There have been overreactions on both sides of this whole mess. We made this shirt because we believe that it's okay to laugh at potty humor and support women in tech at the same time. Also I do want to make it clear that we are not affiliated with Girls Who Code, we just support their cause.

icambron 14y ago
FWIW, I think it's great. One of the things that bugged me about this whole sordid business was the crazy and untrue implication that women are too dainty to handle off-color jokes, or that if you think they're funny, then you're against women in tech. I think this is an appropriate and reasonable, not to mention fun, response.
- derleth 14y ago
  > the crazy and untrue implication that women are too dainty to handle off-color jokes Which is sexist, and I can't see how others can't see how sexist it is. It is pure, straight-up middle-class Victorian bullshit of the kind first wave feminists fought against. It's the idea that women are not naturally sexual beings until they're corrupted by the cruder, more physical men, and the related idea that women are naturally more pure in thought and deed than men. This leads directly into the Madonna-Whore complex and every evil, stupid, petty thing that flows from it. Real humans shit. Real humans sweat. Real humans fuck, and make love, and occasionally forget the difference between the two, and act like idiots because of it. Real humans are strange, flawed, hormonal animals from the day we're born to the day we die, and there are no exceptions. Making exceptions in your mind means putting the person you're making the exception for into a non-human category. It is literally dehumanizing, and, yes, I am using the word 'literally' in its literal sense. There are no gods. There are no monsters. There are just people, however scary and wonderful that is.
  - cwp 14y ago
    Bravo. This is one of a very, very few enlightening comments in this whole mess.
  - etchalon 14y ago
    It's a weird, weird culture we grow up in.
davidroberts 14y ago
The shirt is awesome and so is the spirit behind it.

icambron 14y ago

FWIW, I think it's great. One of the things that bugged me about this whole sordid business was the crazy and untrue implication that women are too dainty to handle off-color jokes, or that if you think they're funny, then you're against women in tech. I think this is an appropriate and reasonable, not to mention fun, response.

derleth 14y ago
> the crazy and untrue implication that women are too dainty to handle off-color jokes Which is sexist, and I can't see how others can't see how sexist it is. It is pure, straight-up middle-class Victorian bullshit of the kind first wave feminists fought against. It's the idea that women are not naturally sexual beings until they're corrupted by the cruder, more physical men, and the related idea that women are naturally more pure in thought and deed than men. This leads directly into the Madonna-Whore complex and every evil, stupid, petty thing that flows from it. Real humans shit. Real humans sweat. Real humans fuck, and make love, and occasionally forget the difference between the two, and act like idiots because of it. Real humans are strange, flawed, hormonal animals from the day we're born to the day we die, and there are no exceptions. Making exceptions in your mind means putting the person you're making the exception for into a non-human category. It is literally dehumanizing, and, yes, I am using the word 'literally' in its literal sense. There are no gods. There are no monsters. There are just people, however scary and wonderful that is.
- cwp 14y ago
  Bravo. This is one of a very, very few enlightening comments in this whole mess.
- etchalon 14y ago
  It's a weird, weird culture we grow up in.

davidroberts 14y ago

The shirt is awesome and so is the spirit behind it.