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Hi rmrfrmrf. I went through your recent comments. By and large, they're highly inflammatory. Ease off on the vitriol and your life might get a bit easier. T

Hi rmrfrmrf. I went through your recent comments. By and large, they're highly inflammatory. Ease off on the vitriol and your life might get a bit easier. To be precise, these are the comments that I find inflammatory: > Because anti-woman and anti-black hate groups are trying to game HN with mass account creation and upvote spam. > SendGrid would have come out stronger from weathering the storm as a defender and promoter of women in tech. Instead, they're giving in to terrorism. Anyone feeling a sense of relief out of this situation is out of their mind. > I hope she sues the shit out of them and gets enough money to spend the rest of her life advocating for women in tech without fear of retaliation. > No, this situation is the worst thing for women in tech. I can't begin to imagine the waves of misogyny that're about to run rampant through the tech community knowing that any woman who speaks out will be fired. > Please take your special snowflakery elsewhere. > No. (without explanation) > In other words, it's OK if men do it, but not if a woman does it. (which was a complete non sequitur) > I can't even begin to explain how fallacious this argument is. (without explanation, and it wasn't fallacious) > Is it really that hard to act like a professional adult while you're at work? The simplest solution is to simply stop telling penis jokes at work. > Still unfunny and tasteless. Imagine that. > Really? All it says to me is that people in the tech field are so against a woman standing up for herself that they're actually willing to bring down the company she works for. It's disgusting. > (cont.) Will you also feel schadenfreude when they hack her bank account? > I bet he won't make the same mistake again. Perhaps we're all so used to going through the 6 month HR-slap-on-the-wrist process that we have lost touch of what it actually takes to change a person's behavior. (supporting mr-hank getting fired) > Thank you -- all of these hate-laden comments are making me lose my mind. > Since when is Twitter the same thing as a professional conference? Why are the majority of the commenters on HN completely missing the point? > She @-replied pycon staff. Compare that to the HN and Reddit communities out for Adria's head. > "We're not choosing your company because we believe in the right for men to tell dick jokes." > (cont.) I'd quickly e-mail back: "don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out." > Thank you, Adria, for fighting the good fight. I hope that the voices of support for you drown out the rampant hate that you're receiving. Seems like HN turns into a complete shithole the second a woman "has the nerve to choose to be offended" or whatever bullshit these misogynist assholes peddle. > (cont.) The benefit that I always see from situations like this is that it empowers the women who, in the past, have been too nervous to call people out on their shit. Just know that you're doing amazing work and are paving the way to creating an environment of gender equality.

logjam 14y ago
Hi georgeorwell. I just went through your one comment above. You just told somebody who complained of getting death threats because of his comments here to watch how he comments so "his life might get a bit easier?" I can't imagine anything more cowardly that you could have possibly posted.
- georgeorwell 14y ago
  I'm not sure why it's cowardly to suggest that. Could you elaborate? I thought it was good advice. If inflammatory comments are even possibly leading to death threats (and it seemed to me like they might be), it's probably a good idea to not post inflammatory comments. I mean, surely nobody wants to receive death threats. Are you saying that his/her comments are not inflammatory? My standard for cowardly posting is verbal abuse and death threats, but YMMV.
  - mercurial 14y ago
    These comments support somebody I absolutely disagree with, but two rights don't make a wrong. Just like it might not be a good idea to say something offensive to somebody else, does not mean you deserve death threats for it. It should be OK to express your support for unpopular ideas on HN, like saying Adria Richards was right or that the people prosecuting Aaron Schwartz did the right thing. On the other hand, people sending threats... To quote the original poster, "don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out." You disagree with stuff? Fine. Downvote and move on, or reply to it and explain why. Don't play anonymous coward.
  - jasonlotito 14y ago
    > If inflammatory comments are even possibly leading to death threats (and it seemed to me like they might be), it's probably a good idea to not post inflammatory comments. That's 'victim blaming' and fairly inflammatory. That's not your intent. It's no different then telling women not to wear provocative clothing if they don't want to be raped (And before people suggest it, I'm not equating rape to anything here). Basically, your intent is sound (how not to receive death threats), but your approach is insulting. The result is, the persons you are talking to are more likely to dismiss what you say because, in effect, you are blaming them for the death threats. You seem to actually care about helping. I wish I could offer some direct advice about how to approach this different, but I can't think of any at the moment. I just know that this approach is confrontational, and completely in the opposite direction of which you seem to want to go.

logjam 14y ago

Hi georgeorwell. I just went through your one comment above. You just told somebody who complained of getting death threats because of his comments here to watch how he comments so "his life might get a bit easier?" I can't imagine anything more cowardly that you could have possibly posted.

georgeorwell 14y ago
I'm not sure why it's cowardly to suggest that. Could you elaborate? I thought it was good advice. If inflammatory comments are even possibly leading to death threats (and it seemed to me like they might be), it's probably a good idea to not post inflammatory comments. I mean, surely nobody wants to receive death threats. Are you saying that his/her comments are not inflammatory? My standard for cowardly posting is verbal abuse and death threats, but YMMV.
- mercurial 14y ago
  These comments support somebody I absolutely disagree with, but two rights don't make a wrong. Just like it might not be a good idea to say something offensive to somebody else, does not mean you deserve death threats for it. It should be OK to express your support for unpopular ideas on HN, like saying Adria Richards was right or that the people prosecuting Aaron Schwartz did the right thing. On the other hand, people sending threats... To quote the original poster, "don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out." You disagree with stuff? Fine. Downvote and move on, or reply to it and explain why. Don't play anonymous coward.
- jasonlotito 14y ago
  > If inflammatory comments are even possibly leading to death threats (and it seemed to me like they might be), it's probably a good idea to not post inflammatory comments. That's 'victim blaming' and fairly inflammatory. That's not your intent. It's no different then telling women not to wear provocative clothing if they don't want to be raped (And before people suggest it, I'm not equating rape to anything here). Basically, your intent is sound (how not to receive death threats), but your approach is insulting. The result is, the persons you are talking to are more likely to dismiss what you say because, in effect, you are blaming them for the death threats. You seem to actually care about helping. I wish I could offer some direct advice about how to approach this different, but I can't think of any at the moment. I just know that this approach is confrontational, and completely in the opposite direction of which you seem to want to go.