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I was drinking with an Asian co-worker at work today and something somewhat relevant came up. A 3rd coworker asked my Asian coworker "Are you ok? Your face is r

I was drinking with an Asian co-worker at work today and something somewhat relevant came up. A 3rd coworker asked my Asian coworker "Are you ok? Your face is red and puffy". And then he stated that Asians (saying all Asians is probably a generalization, but for this example let's assume it is true) lack an enzyme to process alcohol and that Asians are essentially allergic to alcohol. Under this definition, would it be racist to say that all other races except for Asians are inferior at processing alcohol? Even if the following is true: alcohol was less prevalent in Asian cultures and that is probably why they never evolved to possess the same enzyme, which was stated by the other coworker.

devilshaircut 14y ago
"they never evolved to possess the same enzyme" ... what? Asians are the same species as every other race. The idea that Asians somehow did not evolve this particular thing has nothing to do with the genetic change over time that causes speciation/evolution. I think you grossly misunderstand evolution and that your remarks are ignorant (and I think many people would claim racist).
- penrod 14y ago
  Nice use of the R-bomb there. And adroit use of weasel words ("some would claim") to give plausible deniability. Unfortunately your objections make no sense. It's well established that some human subgroups have different physical adaptations (eg. lactase production) that have been naturally selected in the presence of local food sources or production methods. How is that unrelated to evolution?
- newsoundwave 14y ago
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_flush_reaction http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_flush_reaction I think you're the one proving ignorant here.
  - penrod 14y ago
    What is your point exactly? The article you link to states that the flush reaction is genetic, "appears to have been positively selected in the past" and has been hypothesized to "have conferred protection agains certain parasitic infections."
- eloisant 14y ago
  There are evolutionary differences between the races, and the fear of sounding racist makes people say thinks that are untrue scientifically. Example: When exposed to the sun, white people have a higher risk to get a skin cancer than black people (especially if they live in Australia). On the other hand, black people having a skin that filter more UV and make them more vulnerable to a Vitamin D deficiency (especially if they live in NYC). This is simply because they evolved to adapt to different climates. Just claiming "no, there is no difference because we're all the same species" is plain wrong.
powertower 14y ago
> this definition, would it be racist to say that all other races except for Asians are inferior at processing alcohol? I don't follow. How did the co-worker discriminate against the Asian guy? Now if he did, and said something like - your race is fucking weak, you don’t belong here with us - than yes, that would be racism. But simply thinking that Asians don't handle alcohol as well as Europeans do, is not racism.

devilshaircut 14y ago

"they never evolved to possess the same enzyme" ... what? Asians are the same species as every other race. The idea that Asians somehow did not evolve this particular thing has nothing to do with the genetic change over time that causes speciation/evolution. I think you grossly misunderstand evolution and that your remarks are ignorant (and I think many people would claim racist).

penrod 14y ago
Nice use of the R-bomb there. And adroit use of weasel words ("some would claim") to give plausible deniability. Unfortunately your objections make no sense. It's well established that some human subgroups have different physical adaptations (eg. lactase production) that have been naturally selected in the presence of local food sources or production methods. How is that unrelated to evolution?
newsoundwave 14y ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_flush_reaction http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_flush_reaction I think you're the one proving ignorant here.
- penrod 14y ago
  What is your point exactly? The article you link to states that the flush reaction is genetic, "appears to have been positively selected in the past" and has been hypothesized to "have conferred protection agains certain parasitic infections."
eloisant 14y ago
There are evolutionary differences between the races, and the fear of sounding racist makes people say thinks that are untrue scientifically. Example: When exposed to the sun, white people have a higher risk to get a skin cancer than black people (especially if they live in Australia). On the other hand, black people having a skin that filter more UV and make them more vulnerable to a Vitamin D deficiency (especially if they live in NYC). This is simply because they evolved to adapt to different climates. Just claiming "no, there is no difference because we're all the same species" is plain wrong.

powertower 14y ago

> this definition, would it be racist to say that all other races except for Asians are inferior at processing alcohol? I don't follow. How did the co-worker discriminate against the Asian guy? Now if he did, and said something like - your race is fucking weak, you don’t belong here with us - than yes, that would be racism. But simply thinking that Asians don't handle alcohol as well as Europeans do, is not racism.