4 ms·
> "It's not sexist to make jokes about the word 'dongle' sounding like 'dong'." Is it sexist, or isn't it? You can find interesting arguments both ways. Your o
by ericabiz 14y ago
> "It's not sexist to make jokes about the word 'dongle' sounding like 'dong'."
Is it sexist, or isn't it? You can find interesting arguments both ways. Your opinion is that it's not sexist. My opinion is that it depends on context. From what I can tell, in this context, it was probably not meant to be sexist.
> "The examples you gave are sexism."
Are they? I think they are, which is why I brought them up here. You agree. But there are others who replied to my comment who don't agree that either of those are sexist.
We all have different views on what constitutes "sexism." One person's "not sexist" is another person's "sexist." You can see that even in the comments here. That's why it's so difficult to say what the "right" thing to do is.
- georgeorwell 14y agoI'm not clear that you understand what a straw man is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man People are saying that what the two guys did was not sexist and that Adria's response was inappropriate. So, debate that, rather than introduce other examples. Whether or not your other examples are sexist has nothing to do with whether or not the dongle jokes were sexist, but they were straw men in the context of your original comment. In particular, Adria's response does not somehow become appropriate because you experienced or heard about some other bad things, or because people were vicious to her in the aftermath (they were). All that this does is muddy the water and polarize people. If you want to have a general wide-open debate on sexism at technology conferences, I guess that's what you'll have, but it will never be as effective as addressing specific issues.