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> The UK also does not have something like the 4th amendment, which means that things like the Terrorism Act 2000 pass without challenge. That's true, if by "d

• wyager 14y ago
  Neither of those things are indigenous to the UK's government. It's not like the UK actually follows half the things outlined in the ECHR.
  • SEMW 14y ago
    > Neither of those things are indigenous to the UK's government. The Human Rights Act 1998 enacted the ECHR into UK law. So what if the ECHR applies to a wider area than just the UK? The US constitution isn't indigenous to the state of Michigan, but that doesn't make it any less applicable there. (You'd have had a better argument if you'd gone for 'unlike the US constitution, the HRA (and ECHR) isn't entrenched into UK law in a way that makes it hard for a government to repeal', which would have been a valid point). > It's not like the UK actually follows half the things outlined in the ECHR Of the 19 final declarations of incompatibility that had been issued by UK courts under the HRA by August 2011, only a single one hasn't yet been remedied (being the absolute ban on prisoner voting). So no, I don't think that's true. The UK's actually pretty good at fulfilling it's ECHR and EU legal obligations (certainly compared to some Eastern European countries).
    • wyager 14y ago
      >Of the 19 final declarations of incompatibility that had been issued by UK courts under the HRA by August 2011, only a single one hasn't yet been remedied (being the absolute ban on prisoner voting). You're right, my mistake. I was not aware that the Terrorism Act 2000 had been found not in accordance with the law. In my defense, it did take them 10 years to decide so. The last time I had studied the issue in-depth was before Gillan and Quinton v United Kingdom. So that's +1 for the UK; the courts have at least stood up to suspicion-less stop-and-searches. Of course, that's only a very small part of the problem.
  • beedogs 14y ago
    It seems as though you are just making shit up.