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" There is horrifying sexism in the comments that have been posted over the past 24 hours, and it just brings to light the pervasive sexism in our industry." E
by niggler 14y ago
" There is horrifying sexism in the comments that have been posted over the past 24 hours, and it just brings to light the pervasive sexism in our industry."
Exactly. Which is why I'm happy this is playing out now, because I haven't seen the industry introspect on gender issues in a long time.
- incongruity 14y agoFWIW, PyCon and the PSF have really tried over the last five years or so to consider gender issues and I think they've had a good start – I believe I heard PyCon had women accounting for around 20% (edit: corrected thanks) of total attendance. That's pretty cool considering how much lower the numbers were a decade ago.
- vellum 14y agoIt was 20%. https://twitter.com/doughellmann/status/313319682943905793 https://twitter.com/doughellmann/status/313319682943905793
- incongruity 14y agothanks for the correction. fixed to reflect your more accurate numbers/not my clearly horked brain's recollection.
- MartinCron 14y agoI haven't seen the industry introspect on gender issues in a long time I value industry introspection as much as the next person, but these last 24 hours have been actively painful to me.
- niggler 14y ago"these last 24 hours have been actively painful to me." That's a sign you are doing it right
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- golden_apples 14y agoI don't know if i'm missing something, but I've seen very little introspection in the responses to the situation. The guy who was called out's apology notwithstanding, out seems like there's just been a mass venting of anti-feminist attitudes all around.
- mogrim 14y agoI've seen a lot of posts reflecting on the situation, including of course this page on reddit. Certainly it hasn't just been a "mass venting of anti-feminist attitudes", although that's certainly been present too.
- super_mario 14y agoI don't think people understand what "sexist" means. There is no prejudice or discrimination based on gender here. Sexist joke would be someone making a joke implying women were inferior programers or belong in the kitchen not at the computer etc. Saying you would like to fuck the hot blonde sitting in front of you is not sexist (just obscene). What the guys at the PyCon said is so out of category of sexist that it's ridiculous. Besides the larger issue here is should freedom of speech (in the public sphere) include the freedom to offend. One could make a compelling argument that it should.