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What about cases where you think it's just you and your friends joking between each other, and someone overhears, takes a picture of you and then publicly cruci
by misnome 14y ago
What about cases where you think it's just you and your friends joking between each other, and someone overhears, takes a picture of you and then publicly crucifies you online?
- rmc 14y agoWell if you're at a conference with a publicised Code of Conduct that says no sexuality jokes, then... well... maybe don't do it there? They literally wrote it down.
- _ak 14y agoYes, and the situation on the conference was reported to the conference staff, the people involved were talked to, and the situation was resolved. Or so, it seems. Then Aria continued her public shaming, and the whole thing escalated.
- JohnBooty 14y agoThis hasn't ever been an issue for me. I understand that when I'm seated at a conference, the people around me can hear what I'm saying, and adjust the volume of my voice and/or the content of my speech accordingly. > ...and someone overhears, takes a picture of you > and then publicly crucifies you online? The guy's actions and Adria's actions are two separate things, really. I'd still be in the wrong for subjecting a stranger to an unwanted series of sexual jokes, whether they handled it poorly or they handled it in a really outstanding way. I'm not sure what you're getting at. It's okay to say whatever you want if the other person responds poorly?
- katbyte 14y agoyou've now left the conference, you on the bus/tram/whatever on the way back to the hotel with your friends joking around. You make an inappropriate remark/joke and she overhears. She overreacts, snaps a pic of you wearing your badge/company shirt and tweets it. Where does the line get drawn?
- JohnBooty 14y agoThe line gets drawn here: it's not good behavior to subject a stranger to unwanted sexual banter. You can change the setting to a bus, or a train, or a tent in the Himalayas.
- katbyte 14y agoSo your saying anytime in public a penis joke is out of line? So when in public we cannot say anything that may potentially offend someone? I can't say god doesn't exist for fear of offending the religious? i can't say god does exist for fear of offending the atheists? That's some line you drew.
- JohnBooty 14y agoWhy would you need to subject a stranger to your sex jokes or your proclamations about the existence/non-existence of God? Seriously, you should get to know somebody a little bit before you discuss that stuff. Or simply wait for some kind of indication they actually want to talk about it with you. Sure, it's true that literally anything you might offend somebody and that you can never totally avoid that. I'm sure there's a person somewhere in the world who has a panic attack every time they see somebody wearing a green sweater. Should we have to somehow anticipate this and avoid wearing green sweaters? No. Sexual jokes from strange men aren't like that, though. That's not some fringe thing; that's something that actually makes a significant amount of women uncomfortable. You can respect their wishes or not respect their wishes. Personally, I'm immature enough to enjoy penis jokes, but mature enough to respect that not every woman wants to hear one from men she doesn't know.
- katbyte 14y agoI think you've misunderstood me/what happened. I'm not saying its ok to go upto people on the bus and tell them dick jokes or talk about goes existence/non-existence, that just kinda rude. I mean your having a conversation with your friend and for someone nearby who wasn't participating or involved to be offended and outraged about it, take a photo and post it online like adira did. This is not discussing it with the person, this is discussing it with your friend in earshot of the person.