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So, here's the problem with your little fantasy: These guys were actually making sexual jokes. This wasn't a single mis-heard phrase.

derleth 14y ago
Sexual and sexist are only the same if you believe women are chaste, which is horrendously sexist.
blhack 14y ago
Yes, actually there was. One of the things that she was upset about was what she perceived to be a sexual joke about the word "fork" sounding like "fuck". What she didn't understand (since she's not a developer, and probably isn't exposed to these things) is that "fork" is a reference to "git fork". And if you were to read the follow ups from the guys who were shamed over their oh-so-offensive discussion of dongles and code management, you would see that "fork" was an in joke between them. "Fork" in this context meaning a form of flattery. For instance "Danilo is a good developer; I'd for his repo". There is NOTHING sexual about this, but you might not know that if you're not a person who uses git. Which is exactly what happened.
- danilocampos 14y ago
  > There is NOTHING sexual about this, but you might not know that if you're not a person who uses git. I think I'm beginning to understand more about the underlying assumptions that form your worldview. https://github.com/adriarichards https://github.com/adriarichards
cdelsolar 14y ago
Why can't people make sexual jokes to each other?
qzxt 14y ago
no they weren't making sexual jokes. (a) the man has said that his statement about forking was taken out of context, which I'll grant your sensibilities the benefit of the doubt and say maybe he's not telling the truth on that, but then again we shouldn't assume andria is telling the truth, either. so we'll make that one a toss-up then. Now (b) noting that the word dongle sounds like dong is not a sexual joke. it is a joke, many would say in poor taste, but it isn't sexual in anyway unless your understanding of sexuality didn't evolve beyond age 12 and you still laugh every time the guy at the hot dog stand says wiener. neither of them should have lost their jobs and this issue has evolved into something else completely. However, there is no denying that what she did was a gross abuse of whatever influence she had and was little more than playground pettiness on her part. They said something that was not in her taste and rather than be an adult and point out to them or to pycon that she was uncomfortable, she decided to publicly shame him. that's just the truth of the matter.
beachstartup 14y ago
you were asking HOW an accident could occur, not what actually occurred. look, here it is again. How does accidental immature behavior work? THESE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS, which you are conflating ex post facto to rationalize a shitty argument you originally made in the heat of the moment. i'm fairly certain you would just chalk up my (easily) imagined scenario as unfortunate collateral damage to whatever cause you are so zealously defending, so i guess it doesn't really matter anyway

derleth 14y ago

Sexual and sexist are only the same if you believe women are chaste, which is horrendously sexist.

blhack 14y ago

Yes, actually there was. One of the things that she was upset about was what she perceived to be a sexual joke about the word "fork" sounding like "fuck". What she didn't understand (since she's not a developer, and probably isn't exposed to these things) is that "fork" is a reference to "git fork". And if you were to read the follow ups from the guys who were shamed over their oh-so-offensive discussion of dongles and code management, you would see that "fork" was an in joke between them. "Fork" in this context meaning a form of flattery. For instance "Danilo is a good developer; I'd for his repo". There is NOTHING sexual about this, but you might not know that if you're not a person who uses git. Which is exactly what happened.

danilocampos 14y ago
> There is NOTHING sexual about this, but you might not know that if you're not a person who uses git. I think I'm beginning to understand more about the underlying assumptions that form your worldview. https://github.com/adriarichards https://github.com/adriarichards

cdelsolar 14y ago

Why can't people make sexual jokes to each other?

qzxt 14y ago

no they weren't making sexual jokes. (a) the man has said that his statement about forking was taken out of context, which I'll grant your sensibilities the benefit of the doubt and say maybe he's not telling the truth on that, but then again we shouldn't assume andria is telling the truth, either. so we'll make that one a toss-up then. Now (b) noting that the word dongle sounds like dong is not a sexual joke. it is a joke, many would say in poor taste, but it isn't sexual in anyway unless your understanding of sexuality didn't evolve beyond age 12 and you still laugh every time the guy at the hot dog stand says wiener. neither of them should have lost their jobs and this issue has evolved into something else completely. However, there is no denying that what she did was a gross abuse of whatever influence she had and was little more than playground pettiness on her part. They said something that was not in her taste and rather than be an adult and point out to them or to pycon that she was uncomfortable, she decided to publicly shame him. that's just the truth of the matter.

beachstartup 14y ago

you were asking HOW an accident could occur, not what actually occurred. look, here it is again. How does accidental immature behavior work? THESE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS, which you are conflating ex post facto to rationalize a shitty argument you originally made in the heat of the moment. i'm fairly certain you would just chalk up my (easily) imagined scenario as unfortunate collateral damage to whatever cause you are so zealously defending, so i guess it doesn't really matter anyway