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Worth reading for this: Around January, upon logging into the Google account, Google showed a strange NOTICE message asking me to accept the terms of usage of
by exhilaration 14y ago
Worth reading for this:
Around January, upon logging into the Google account, Google showed a strange NOTICE message asking me to accept the terms of usage of my account. This was odd, because in a decade of being a Google user, I had never seen this. I am told that this is Google's way of "telling you without telling you" that you have been served an NSL. Google, by law, is not allowed to tell you about the NSL, but they definitely are within their right to ask you to accept their TOS upon login. This is the "tell" that everyone here should be aware of. If you see this, you are likely being monitored.
- jrajav 14y agoIt's possible that they will remove that "tell" now that it's been publicized.
- wilfra 14y agoUnlikely since their goal in doing it is to notify people without breaking the law. If ever there were an example of G not being Evil, this is it. Hats off to them for how hard they work to keep the man away from our data.
- felixmar 14y agoAnd with Apple it is the opposite: if you don't at least once a month have to accept their terms your iPhone is likely being monitored.
- zampano 14y agoyikes, I can't remember the last time I saw a TOS on my iPhone, can anyone else confirm that this happens?
- codegeek 14y agoHappens everytime I try to install a new app from appstore. It is a nightmare I tell you.
- revscat 14y agoIt typically happens when on iOS updates: after the device restarts you get the TOS screen and the 'Accept' button.
- melvinmt 14y agoI think he's being sarcastic.
- jws 14y agoFor desktop users I think every iTunes upgrade includes a mandatory TOS allegiance vow.
- dleibovic 14y agocan't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. Do you have a source?
- pondababa 14y agoThat said, I wouldn't take the lack of a notice like that as a sign that I'm not being monitored.
- rooshdi 14y agoYea, we're all being monitored either way, just some more closely than others.
- mhurron 14y agoAren't you going to have to re-accept the ToS every time Google changes it?
- logn 14y agoHa, I just had to re-accept TOS for an AppEngine site I have. I noticed the TOS haven't changed since December 2012 and I've logged in numerous times since then. I hope they enjoy perusing my 200 rows of a database and weep with me over my failure of a website.
- rachelbythebay 14y agoGoogle is weird about that kind of stuff, inside and out. Google asked all of us who had been around longer than a certain amount of time to re-sign our NDAs because "they lost them" or they "didn't get signed your first day of work" or something like that. I asked to see a copy of the old version so I could diff it (visually, ugh) to see what I was supposedly agreeing to in the new one. They provided the old version all right... not AN old version, THE old version. As in, the actual (scanned) copy I signed my first day of work... and it had my signature on it, right next to the date, just as I remembered it. I found out much later they pulled this on a whole bunch of people.
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- iooi 14y agoWhat was the diff if you don't mind me asking?
- rachelbythebay 14y agoI think part of it was something like "if you access corp from a device, you have just tainted it and we can dig around on it at any time, including when you quit", which I mechanically translated to "never read my mail, Buzz, or anything else from home unless I'm on the company laptop or the Nexus One which they gave me and is fundamentally tainted anyway". This could have affected my personal iPhone, Linux box(es) at home, and anything else which might have accessed google.com/a/google.com/... resources. So, I basically stopped checking mail unless I was at work. I also think they tried to make it retroactive to the day I started work, but I'd like to see that fly in a court of law. Retroactively tainting my machines? Good luck with that.
- jrochkind1 14y agoSo... you didn't then say "Okay, so why did you want me to sign a new one again?"