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SendGrid is in a lose-lose situation. Either they keep Richards, deal with the DDOS (which has crippled their mail server), and deal with disgruntled male devs
by canttestthis 14y ago
SendGrid is in a lose-lose situation. Either they keep Richards, deal with the DDOS (which has crippled their mail server), and deal with disgruntled male devs who've sworn to never use their service, or they fire Richards, get good PR from their client base (the male devs who had previously sworn to never use SendGrid), get that DDOS off their back, and deal with some negative PR from the 'feminists in tech' group.
The choice is pretty obvious here.
- pekk 14y agoWhich is such a pity, because it only reinforces the 'tech world systematically suppresses women' meme. There was no win to be had after this. I guess this is how we iron out what the Code of Conduct stuff really means, hopefully we learn from it.
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- jrajav 14y ago> it only reinforces the 'tech world systematically suppresses women' meme. No it doesn't. It actually reduces it. She is being treated as a complete equal here, in being called out and held accountable for her actions. It would be a setback if she were protected purely because she was "speaking out" about sexism.
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- smirksirlot 14y agoThere are also male devs who agree with Adria.
- canttestthis 14y agoThey seem to be in the minority.
- WalterSear 14y agoThey seem not to know all the facts involved. From the same conference: https://twitter.com/adriarichards/status/312265091791847425 https://twitter.com/adriarichards/status/312265091791847425 The company she is envangelising for thinks that a visual joke about photocopying your genitals is apropriate for their jobs pages. http://i.imgur.com/uWc8P39.png http://i.imgur.com/uWc8P39.png Actions must be judged in relation to the society in which they occur.
- Smudge 14y agoAnd female devs who disagree with Adria.
- animesh 14y agoBecause of these female devs who disagreed with Adria, I learnt about the difference between feminists-for-feminism and feminists-for-equality.
- blhack 14y agoUhh, not so fast there. All of the feminists I've talked to so far are absolutely furious with Adria Richards on this one. She's set back "women in tech" pretty far.
- chadscira 14y agofrom what i have witnessed the majority of women and men agree that this was the wrong way to go about things.