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Many of the author's complaints read similar to this one: Now, people compare Backbone to Cappuccino, or Ember to Rails. Cappuccino, Backbone, and Rails all se
by chao- 14y ago
Many of the author's complaints read similar to this one:
Now, people compare Backbone to Cappuccino, or Ember to Rails. Cappuccino, Backbone, and Rails all serve completely different purposes, and saying you don’t need one because you have another is just asinine.
Three questions:
1. Who are these people that compare those three frameworks?
2. Why do you let them get under your skin?
3. What does that have you do with you "being done with the web" (or web community)?
I don't understand any of these. So some morons want to compare apples and oranges? This has nothing to do with "the web" and crops up in all industries and spheres of life. Welcome to humanity, enjoy your stay.
As best I can tell, my lack of empathy must come from a different definition of "web community". When the author complains about how The community has tossed out everything we’ve learned from the last 30 years of building applications in favor of being able to put something together quickly with complete disregard for maintainability or extendability. part of me wants to agree with him, flip a table, and join the melee [1].
But at the same time, I was listening to the Ruby Rogues episode with Sandi Metz last night [2]. There is a 20-minute discussion about utility of does-it-all frameworks, their use in a project, the types of projects you use them for, and the point at which all projects will necessarily need to have designed a better solution, or massively adapted the framework, to better fit their problem. It's all very clear-eyed and up front about this exact tradeoff (that is, complaint by the author). That is but one example, and I won't belabor the thread with more.
At the end of the day, either the author is simply frustrated that it was hard to convince people to use his project/product, or we must live in very different "web communities".
[1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WpkDN78P884&t=33m0s http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=W...
[2] http://rubyrogues.com/087-rr-book-clubpractical-object-oriented-design-in-ruby-with-sandi-metz/ http://rubyrogues.com/087-rr-book-clubpractical-object-orien...