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This sucks. Regardless of your opinion of the situation she hasn't been fired because what she did was wrong, she has been fired because the internet is blackma

This sucks. Regardless of your opinion of the situation she hasn't been fired because what she did was wrong, she has been fired because the internet is blackmailing her employer by destroying their business. It's almost guaranteed that she will have been well aware this was going to happen, they'll have parted on friendly terms and will be doing everything they can to help her get another job. Hell, she might have even been involved in the drafting of that Facebook post herself. This isn't a victory, SendGrid have been bullied/blackmailed into doing something they don't want to do. If she was going to be fired for it should have been because of her actions, not because some dickwads are blackmailing the company. How very disappointing and now we'll never hear the last of this. Time to make use of filtering options in HackerNew (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hackernew/lgoghlndihpmbbgmbpjohilcphbfhddd https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hackernew/lgoghlnd...) Edit: to clarify, when I say blackmail I'm talking about the DDoS attack the company is suffering which is preventing them from doing any business: http://venturebeat.com/2013/03/21/sendgrid-under-ddos-attack-after-its-developer-evangelist-complains-about-sexual-jokes-at-pycon/ http://venturebeat.com/2013/03/21/sendgrid-under-ddos-attack... Edit edit: This thread has been killed so nobody is going to see this comment again so I will take the opportunity to say I'm ashamed to be a part of the internet today.

jrajav 14y ago
> If she was going to be fired for it should have been because of her actions, not because some dickwads are blackmailing the company. Why are we assuming that it was the second and not the first?
- citricsquid 14y ago
  They would not have made a public statement if this wasn't a response to the public actions.
  - jrajav 14y ago
    I agree that this is probably a response to public actions - the public actions she made as a public representative of their company. Even if that is not THE reason, it's certainly a plausible reason, and one I find much more likely and commendable than reacting to a DDoS. However, perhaps we shouldn't just jump to conclusions ahead of a comprehensive statement.
  - ktsmith 14y ago
    Perhaps it's a reaction to the public firing of the guy she posted a picture of on Twitter and accused of harassment?
Karunamon 14y ago
Blackmailing? You have a very odd definition of blackmail. Do you consider it blackmail when people refuse to buy Apple gear because of their patent trolling? How about people who refuse to buy Chik-Fil-A because of their donations to homophobic groups? Sendgrid keeping on Adria after her actions would appear to a casual observer to be tacit acceptance of her actions. A stance, which after the thread yesterday, would seem to be morally unacceptable to a great deal of people. There is nothing immoral about refusing to do business with a company based on their actions or inactions. Welcome to the free market!
- citricsquid 14y ago
  I'm talking about the DDoS the company is suffering: http://venturebeat.com/2013/03/21/sendgrid-under-ddos-attack-after-its-developer-evangelist-complains-about-sexual-jokes-at-pycon/ http://venturebeat.com/2013/03/21/sendgrid-under-ddos-attack... The refusal to do service with a business is fine, free will and all that, the problem is that people are attacking the business and preventing them from doing any business with people that want to. This is a reaction to the DDoS...
  - Karunamon 14y ago
    >This is a reaction to the DDoS... You do not and can not possibly know that.
    - citricsquid 14y ago
      Sure, it's speculation, that goes without saying but I'll put a lot of money on it. Situation happens -> posts are made -> drama drama drama -> days go by -> Adria tweets that Sendgrid support her -> Sendgrid is taken offline, company suffers -> Adria is publicly fired. There's no way she was going to be fired for her actions at the conference, however shitty they were she explicitly stated that Sendgrid supported her: https://twitter.com/adriarichards/status/314452708549603328 https://twitter.com/adriarichards/status/314452708549603328 unless she's delusional too...
      - 14y ago
dualboot 14y ago
She's been fired because SendGrid doesn't need a "Developer Evangelist" If she was an indispensable asset they would have found another way to handle the situation.
- untog 14y ago
  What? How can that make any sense? If they didn't need a Developer Evangelist then why did they have one in the first place? Are you seriously suggesting that their timing in firing her is completely coincidental?
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  - dualboot 14y ago
    No, what I'm saying is that she was expendable. It's always an equation. If someone is not worth the trouble they represent in the situation at hand -- this is the result.
wotwot 14y ago
She was fired for being totally clueless about the medium in which she claimed expertise. Your job is to make negative things go away quietly and to amplify the positive, not the opposite.

jrajav 14y ago

> If she was going to be fired for it should have been because of her actions, not because some dickwads are blackmailing the company. Why are we assuming that it was the second and not the first?

citricsquid 14y ago
They would not have made a public statement if this wasn't a response to the public actions.
- jrajav 14y ago
  I agree that this is probably a response to public actions - the public actions she made as a public representative of their company. Even if that is not THE reason, it's certainly a plausible reason, and one I find much more likely and commendable than reacting to a DDoS. However, perhaps we shouldn't just jump to conclusions ahead of a comprehensive statement.
- ktsmith 14y ago
  Perhaps it's a reaction to the public firing of the guy she posted a picture of on Twitter and accused of harassment?

Karunamon 14y ago

Blackmailing? You have a very odd definition of blackmail. Do you consider it blackmail when people refuse to buy Apple gear because of their patent trolling? How about people who refuse to buy Chik-Fil-A because of their donations to homophobic groups? Sendgrid keeping on Adria after her actions would appear to a casual observer to be tacit acceptance of her actions. A stance, which after the thread yesterday, would seem to be morally unacceptable to a great deal of people. There is nothing immoral about refusing to do business with a company based on their actions or inactions. Welcome to the free market!

citricsquid 14y ago
I'm talking about the DDoS the company is suffering: http://venturebeat.com/2013/03/21/sendgrid-under-ddos-attack-after-its-developer-evangelist-complains-about-sexual-jokes-at-pycon/ http://venturebeat.com/2013/03/21/sendgrid-under-ddos-attack... The refusal to do service with a business is fine, free will and all that, the problem is that people are attacking the business and preventing them from doing any business with people that want to. This is a reaction to the DDoS...
- Karunamon 14y ago
  >This is a reaction to the DDoS... You do not and can not possibly know that.
  - citricsquid 14y ago
    Sure, it's speculation, that goes without saying but I'll put a lot of money on it. Situation happens -> posts are made -> drama drama drama -> days go by -> Adria tweets that Sendgrid support her -> Sendgrid is taken offline, company suffers -> Adria is publicly fired. There's no way she was going to be fired for her actions at the conference, however shitty they were she explicitly stated that Sendgrid supported her: https://twitter.com/adriarichards/status/314452708549603328 https://twitter.com/adriarichards/status/314452708549603328 unless she's delusional too...
    - 14y ago

dualboot 14y ago

She's been fired because SendGrid doesn't need a "Developer Evangelist" If she was an indispensable asset they would have found another way to handle the situation.

untog 14y ago
What? How can that make any sense? If they didn't need a Developer Evangelist then why did they have one in the first place? Are you seriously suggesting that their timing in firing her is completely coincidental?
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- dualboot 14y ago
  No, what I'm saying is that she was expendable. It's always an equation. If someone is not worth the trouble they represent in the situation at hand -- this is the result.

wotwot 14y ago

She was fired for being totally clueless about the medium in which she claimed expertise. Your job is to make negative things go away quietly and to amplify the positive, not the opposite.