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So, making a joke about a "dongle" with your friend is a firable offense, but taking a photo of someone without their permission and publicly calling them an "a

So, making a joke about a "dongle" with your friend is a firable offense, but taking a photo of someone without their permission and publicly calling them an "ass clown" is okay? Because she was offended at crudeness directed at no one and merely overheard, that means crude insults directed at people are appropriate? And in a way that's meant to harm them publicly? What a damn strange time we live in.

theorique 14y ago
So, making a joke about a "dongle" with your friend is a firable offense, but taking a photo of someone without their permission and publicly calling them an "ass clown" is okay? It's not about what was done, it's about who did it. Because the latter offense was done by a member of an oppressed class, it's automatically OK. Because the former offense was done by a member of the oppressor class, it's punishable. (Some people actually think this way.)
- andybak 14y ago
  And there is some validity to that view. I'm not happy with the way this particular incident has panned out but arguing we should just ignore power relationships when analysing a situation is throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
  - theorique 14y ago
    I think the power asymmetry was rather limited in this case. All the people involved in the incident were rather privileged - attendees of a conference that costs hundreds of dollars to attend (not including travel and accommodation).
jcc80 14y ago
For those keeping score, this is also OK: @adriarichards Black people CANNOT be racist against White people. Racism is a position of the oppressor who has the power - http://i.imgur.com/ou8JZVu.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ou8JZVu.jpg
- knowtheory 14y ago
  And what score are we keeping? What are you hoping to accomplish by highlighting this particular tweet? What does this have to do with the incident at PyCon? What does this have to do with determining the facts of what happened at PyCon? Even if you disagree with this tweet (which i do), aside from the obvious character assassination, what exactly are you asking us to infer here?
  - jcc80 14y ago
    "What exactly are you asking us to infer here?" That in this situation she's playing a victim when she's actually the one with the power. Granted, old tweet.
    - knowtheory 14y ago
      And you think she has the power because...? She has a twitter account? Or because she works in developer relations for a startup? Or because she's got two X chromosomes? Or because she's black?
      - jcc80 14y ago
        It's pretty obvious - she was able to get a guy fired for making a Jr. High joke to his friend (sexual joke, not sexist) and stir up a hornets nest with a simple tweet.
        knowtheory 14y ago
        She didn't fire anyone. And frankly, do you think she expected him to be fired? Do you think that was her intent when she posted?
        throwaway0321 14y ago
        @knowtheory The person being fired is a direct consequence of her tweet. While it isn't likely she directly intended for anyone to lose their jobs, it is equally unlikely she expected absolutely nothing to come of it. Edit: changed wording.

theorique 14y ago

So, making a joke about a "dongle" with your friend is a firable offense, but taking a photo of someone without their permission and publicly calling them an "ass clown" is okay? It's not about what was done, it's about who did it. Because the latter offense was done by a member of an oppressed class, it's automatically OK. Because the former offense was done by a member of the oppressor class, it's punishable. (Some people actually think this way.)

andybak 14y ago
And there is some validity to that view. I'm not happy with the way this particular incident has panned out but arguing we should just ignore power relationships when analysing a situation is throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
- theorique 14y ago
  I think the power asymmetry was rather limited in this case. All the people involved in the incident were rather privileged - attendees of a conference that costs hundreds of dollars to attend (not including travel and accommodation).

jcc80 14y ago

For those keeping score, this is also OK: @adriarichards Black people CANNOT be racist against White people. Racism is a position of the oppressor who has the power - http://i.imgur.com/ou8JZVu.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ou8JZVu.jpg

knowtheory 14y ago
And what score are we keeping? What are you hoping to accomplish by highlighting this particular tweet? What does this have to do with the incident at PyCon? What does this have to do with determining the facts of what happened at PyCon? Even if you disagree with this tweet (which i do), aside from the obvious character assassination, what exactly are you asking us to infer here?
- jcc80 14y ago
  "What exactly are you asking us to infer here?" That in this situation she's playing a victim when she's actually the one with the power. Granted, old tweet.
  - knowtheory 14y ago
    And you think she has the power because...? She has a twitter account? Or because she works in developer relations for a startup? Or because she's got two X chromosomes? Or because she's black?
    - jcc80 14y ago
      It's pretty obvious - she was able to get a guy fired for making a Jr. High joke to his friend (sexual joke, not sexist) and stir up a hornets nest with a simple tweet.
      - knowtheory 14y ago
        She didn't fire anyone. And frankly, do you think she expected him to be fired? Do you think that was her intent when she posted?
      - throwaway0321 14y ago
        @knowtheory The person being fired is a direct consequence of her tweet. While it isn't likely she directly intended for anyone to lose their jobs, it is equally unlikely she expected absolutely nothing to come of it. Edit: changed wording.