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All things being equal, working together with women puts you at risk (they might get accidentally offended, go ballistic and ruin your life), working with men m

by Tichy 14y ago

All things being equal, working together with women puts you at risk (they might get accidentally offended, go ballistic and ruin your life), working with men much less so (harrassment claims much less likely). Conclusion: it is prerferrable to not work with women. Just saying how it is, rationally. To be honest, it sometimes felt weird to work at places with 100% guys as developers. But at the end of the day, I just want to get my job done then get home to wife+ kids. Exactly why should I care about getting more women into IT? Honest question - I see the appeal of lower wages for employers (more devs- they get cheaper). That would lower my wages, too. As for nicer atmosphere at work - flirting and being nice is too dangerous, so having women around would actually make things worse. Note: I don't really have a problem with women in IT, just wondering about the future.

ciupicri 14y ago
I know someone who thought exactly like you. He and the rest of his colleagues evaluated a woman and they wondered if she could really integrate into the group (because of dirty jokes), so in the end they decided not to hire her.
- Tichy 14y ago
  I don't even like dirty jokes. But to be honest, it seems fair to me that people prefer to hire people who share their sense of humor.
  - ciupicri 14y ago
    Indeed. It could have been another trait as well like the work philosophy which could be conservative or fast paced (and more prone to errors) for example. There's also the saying when in Rome do as the Romans do.
svlasits 14y ago
In the future engineering will be just like most other workplaces: men and women working together mostly respectfully without incident. This will happen whether you care about it or not. Your side (the side that concludes that "it is prerferrable to not work with women") will lose. Your "logic" and your "rationality" will surrender to justice, fair play and equality. Now, please stop fighting for your side so men who recognize the benefits of having women colleagues can enjoy those benefits sooner.
- Tichy 14y ago
  I'm not fighting against women becoming engineers, but against the reasons that make it undesireable to have female colleasgues.

by Tichy 14y ago

ciupicri 14y ago

I know someone who thought exactly like you. He and the rest of his colleagues evaluated a woman and they wondered if she could really integrate into the group (because of dirty jokes), so in the end they decided not to hire her.

Tichy 14y ago
I don't even like dirty jokes. But to be honest, it seems fair to me that people prefer to hire people who share their sense of humor.
- ciupicri 14y ago
  Indeed. It could have been another trait as well like the work philosophy which could be conservative or fast paced (and more prone to errors) for example. There's also the saying when in Rome do as the Romans do.

svlasits 14y ago

In the future engineering will be just like most other workplaces: men and women working together mostly respectfully without incident. This will happen whether you care about it or not. Your side (the side that concludes that "it is prerferrable to not work with women") will lose. Your "logic" and your "rationality" will surrender to justice, fair play and equality. Now, please stop fighting for your side so men who recognize the benefits of having women colleagues can enjoy those benefits sooner.

Tichy 14y ago
I'm not fighting against women becoming engineers, but against the reasons that make it undesireable to have female colleasgues.