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> You realise there were feed services that went kaput because of Reader People keep saying something like this without providing real examples. I can believe

> You realise there were feed services that went kaput because of Reader People keep saying something like this without providing real examples. I can believe Reader's existence might have depressed the market for new feed readers (though there have long been competitors around--lots of open source and built in ones, and a few for-pay ones too, like Feedly), but I haven't been able to personally think of any feed readers that were crushed by Reader coming out. I may just have forgotten them, though (2005 was a long time ago). Anyone have good examples?

fakeer 14y ago
>>I may just have forgotten them, though (2005 was a long time ago). Yeah, good point :-) There was Bloglines. It is still there, only difference being - it's a ghost town now. There used to be FeedDemon's own sync and now FeedDemon is jumping into the pyre with Reader. It's been long and I am out of example. Maybe others will bring some. But thing in this way - "because when the company launched Google Reader in 2005, its free price tag undercut and then virtually destroyed the market for competitive products."[1] Thing this way - what about an startup that wants to enter hosted mail(web mail too) and they won't because of GMail. The same can be said about IM(for personal use; not those dev chat apps), Forum(Groups?), blah. And Google has good reason to kill them too. [1]http://www.loopinsight.com/2013/03/19/this-is-what-pisses-me-off-about-google-reader/ http://www.loopinsight.com/2013/03/19/this-is-what-pisses-me...
- tomkarlo 14y ago
  The same could be said when they started Google - at the time Altavista was dominant in search. If you're that easily dissuaded, you shouldn't be in startups. There's almost always an existing solution to the problem you're trying to solve.
  - pessimizer 14y ago
    Altavista wasn't an arm of one of the most powerful, valuable, and influential companies on earth.
    - tomkarlo 14y ago
      No, but at the time, the Internet was also about 1/100th of what it is today and Altavista was still worth about $3bn. It's hard to picture now, but back in 1999 Altavista and Yahoo were towering giants online.
    - res0nat0r 14y ago
      AV was spawned by researchers from DEC in 1995 a full 3 years before Google came on the scene. I'd say Google was the severe underdog at the time.
- adestefan 14y ago
  Bloglines killed themselves when they tried to redesign into a Digg competitor instead of a feed reader.

fakeer 14y ago

>>I may just have forgotten them, though (2005 was a long time ago). Yeah, good point :-) There was Bloglines. It is still there, only difference being - it's a ghost town now. There used to be FeedDemon's own sync and now FeedDemon is jumping into the pyre with Reader. It's been long and I am out of example. Maybe others will bring some. But thing in this way - "because when the company launched Google Reader in 2005, its free price tag undercut and then virtually destroyed the market for competitive products."[1] Thing this way - what about an startup that wants to enter hosted mail(web mail too) and they won't because of GMail. The same can be said about IM(for personal use; not those dev chat apps), Forum(Groups?), blah. And Google has good reason to kill them too. [1]http://www.loopinsight.com/2013/03/19/this-is-what-pisses-me-off-about-google-reader/ http://www.loopinsight.com/2013/03/19/this-is-what-pisses-me...

tomkarlo 14y ago
The same could be said when they started Google - at the time Altavista was dominant in search. If you're that easily dissuaded, you shouldn't be in startups. There's almost always an existing solution to the problem you're trying to solve.
- pessimizer 14y ago
  Altavista wasn't an arm of one of the most powerful, valuable, and influential companies on earth.
  - tomkarlo 14y ago
    No, but at the time, the Internet was also about 1/100th of what it is today and Altavista was still worth about $3bn. It's hard to picture now, but back in 1999 Altavista and Yahoo were towering giants online.
  - res0nat0r 14y ago
    AV was spawned by researchers from DEC in 1995 a full 3 years before Google came on the scene. I'd say Google was the severe underdog at the time.
adestefan 14y ago
Bloglines killed themselves when they tried to redesign into a Digg competitor instead of a feed reader.