> This is the core of what happened. The problem is it's not the entirety of what happened. We can't use this as an example of the "PyCon system" working, beca

> This is the core of what happened. The problem is it's not the entirety of what happened. We can't use this as an example of the "PyCon system" working, because it's not that - it's some other system where people complain publicly and then PyCon responds - hopefully not purely out of shame (I have absolute faith in the PyCon people and their absolute earnestness, it's just that the ambiguity is there regardless). Likewise the actual outcome overall is not fair or satisfying for anyone in my opinion. Some guys were publicly shamed needlessly, Adria gets a backlash instead of focus on a real issue, and we get a bunch of heated discussions with large unproductive sections. I suppose it's not terribly productive to say "well this didn't work out well", but I'm hoping we can all make sure we avoid something like this next time. > While I don't completely agree with every nuance of what you present, I am impressed with your ability to understand and articulate the complexities of the situation. Thank you. I'd be curious if you cared to share some of the points you disagree with.