> I don't think it's ok to just say "she's a woman so she automatically will be crucified if she speaks up" That is in fact not what I said. What I said was m

> I don't think it's ok to just say "she's a woman so she automatically will be crucified if she speaks up" That is in fact not what I said. What I said was more along the lines that you're in a bad position to be giving advice on what women should do when they encounter this situation. (And for what it's worth, if you were a woman (which I made the assumption from your username that you weren't, feel free to correct me) I would write the same thing except I would say "other women". I don't think it's terribly productive for anyone to spend a lot of time telling someone else how to raise a point in a situation they weren't a party to.) > I believe that you're perpetuating the idea that women aren't on a level playing field by repeating that point. I happen to know that women are not on a level playing field in tech and I happen to chose not to pretend like the world is a different place than it is. > what would you say should've been done if being loud or being quiet have negative consequences? I think it's important to respect an individual's choice in terms of how they react to dealing with a situation they find problematic. Which isn't to say someone's actions can't be questioned, but engaging in a discussion of how you think someone that isn't you and who was in a situation you weren't in should have gone about raising a point seems a lot less useful than actually addressing the point they were trying to raise.