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here's the point: it's not only fair. in fact, by expecting sendgrid to can adria you're implicitly supporting what the other guy's company did, at which point
by zem 14y ago
here's the point: it's not only fair. in fact, by expecting sendgrid to can adria you're implicitly supporting what the other guy's company did, at which point you really have no complaint.
- jessaustin 14y agoUmmm, my reading of the thread is that we're not going to do business with Adria's employer because of her actions. That's a different thing.
- Karunamon 14y agoIndeed. And if her personal actions and the resultant bad press for Sendgrid causes them to ask the person in question to step down, well, going on the logic in this thread, the employer is the bad guy, not the person acting like a jackass in public. ..In which case the decision to stop or not do business with Sendgrid would be all the more justified.
- zem 14y agodifferent how? you're holding them responsible for something adria did at pycon.
- jessaustin 14y agoYou don't see a difference between an employee losing her job and a company losing some business? You must be in management.
- zem 14y agoif the company were pressured into firing adria in order to get their customer base back, would you feel justice had been served?
- jessaustin 14y agoI prefer mercy to "justice", as if the latter ever happens, as if we'd recognize it if it did. I don't want anyone to be fired for her speech, but I realize that in this world it's going to happen occasionally. I'm sure you'll misunderstand this comment, because you have systematically misunderstood every comment in this thread so far, but I mean it when say that I would have preferred that none of the parties involved be fired as a result of this incident.
- zem 14y agoyou need to read this comment for context if you think i'm systematically misunderstanding the tenor of this thread. i admit it might look that way if you don't start from there. edit: this comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5411071 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5411071
- jessaustin 14y agoGet a good night's sleep and re-read that one in the morning. The very first sentence of that is about consequences for the business, and the rest of it is in response to that. Others have suggested that the SendGrid employee should be fired, but that's not what Karunamon is suggesting in the comment you link.
- Karunamon 14y agoNono. Please understand, that is exactly what I am suggesting. Adria's actions unjustly caused another person to lose their employment and very possibly negatively impact their future employment opportunities. At least in my mind, it's only fair that Sendgrid re-evaluate whether they want their "evangelist" acting in such a manner.
- jessaustin 14y agoWell I'm a moron. I guess you got your wish.